How Do I Remove Movement From 6309-523A Please?

[ro63rto]

Hi all. Just want to see if the hands are just loose or need changing but having removed the stem the movement is still stuck ie doesn't just tip out like in the videos.

Any idea what needs to be removed to release movement?

[matabog]

http://www.thewatchsite.com/14-user-manual-technical-manual-casing-guide-downloads/1801-seiko-watch-technical-guide-hires-color.html

 

Try this link. You will find  Casing Guide.pdf 25.1Mb

Maybe it helps you

 

 

 

Maybe it twists before getting  out

[ro63rto]

http://www.thewatchsite.com/14-user-manual-technical-manual-casing-guide-downloads/1801-seiko-watch-technical-guide-hires-color.html

Try this link. You will find Casing Guide.pdf 25.1Mb

Maybe it helps you

Maybe it twists before getting out

Thanks. I had the low res version of the 6309 tech guide but not the casing guide.

Tech guide says it should just drop out. [emoji20]

[canthus]

Have you had a look behind the strap ends where they fit to the case, sometimes there are small springs to release movement.

[ro63rto]

Have you had a look behind the strap ends where they fit to the case, sometimes there are small springs to release movement.

No, but on those that do usually dont have screw backs. I'll check later.

[anilv]

Dear ro63to,

 

This is a plastic spacer so the fit may be slightly tighter than with normal steel movement rings. The clearances at design point may be 'tighter' than for steel. You will need to gently pry up around the edges of the watch. I usually start with a stout screwdriver in the stem 'hole area' and work around. Don't try to get it out at one go but work your way round.. don't pry up near the balance wheel, a slip her would be disastrous.

 

Befor you try this, I would suggest you remove the rotor next. This should always be the first thing you remove once you get the back off and the last thing you replace before closing it up. The reason is the rotor bearing does a good job in the rotating plane but any up down movement of the rotor places a lot of stress on the bearing. Imagine pressing on the edge of the rotor.. what you have is a lever pivoting on the rotor bearing. On some watches this will not be possible to just remove the rotor, the whole autowinding works needs to come off but you should always keep this at the back of your mind.

 

hope this helps..!

Anilv

[bobm12]

Good advise Anil, I didn't think on all those details and might have sinned by grabbing the rotor! From now on I'll know better. Thank you for the advise and sharing!

[ro63rto]

Dear ro63to,

This is a plastic spacer so the fit may be slightly tighter than with normal steel movement rings. The clearances at design point may be 'tighter' than for steel. You will need to gently pry up around the edges of the watch. I usually start with a stout screwdriver in the stem 'hole area' and work around. Don't try to get it out at one go but work your way round.. don't pry up near the balance wheel, a slip her would be disastrous.

Befor you try this, I would suggest you remove the rotor next. This should always be the first thing you remove once you get the back off and the last thing you replace before closing it up. The reason is the rotor bearing does a good job in the rotating plane but any up down movement of the rotor places a lot of stress on the bearing. Imagine pressing on the edge of the rotor.. what you have is a lever pivoting on the rotor bearing. On some watches this will not be possible to just remove the rotor, the whole autowinding works needs to come off but you should always keep this at the back of your mind.

hope this helps..!

Anilv

Thanks for the guidance/advice. Makes sense but wouldn't have thought about it.

Eyes are giving me problems today, feels like a needle is trying to push its way out from behind my eyeball. Will wait until no more pain as it makes me jump when it comes. Don't want pieces being catapulted across the room.

Cheers

Rob.

[anilv]

Take care Rob,  working watches is not the best thing if your eyes are giving you problems!

 

Anil

[ro63rto]

Take care Rob, working watches is not the best thing if your eyes are giving you problems!

Anil

Thanks. Hopefully all will be well tomorrow.

[WillFly]

If your eyes are hurting, rest is essential - which is time for you to review your working conditions - bench height, light source(s), magnification, etc. Take care.

 

Will

[ro63rto]

If your eyes are hurting, rest is essential - which is time for you to review your working conditions - bench height, light source(s), magnification, etc. Take care.

Will

Morning Will.

Totally agree but my problem is not from the above. Its from bad sleep pattern. ie I keep waking up every 2 hours due to chronic back pain (again not caused from poor posture but numerous injuries and ops)

Got a cheap Presto Presser in the post to reseat the hands after I relume them too.

Looking forward to this minor project.

[Geo]

(again not caused from poor posture but numerous injuries and ops)

I hope that Aprilia Taureg 125 had nothing to do with it!

[ro63rto]

I hope that Aprilia Taureg 125 had nothing to do with it!

Haha no. That is my Holy Grail if I ever buy a motorbike. Lusted after it when a friend in Italy was given one for his 16th. Edited November 2, 2014 by ro63rto

[WillFly]

Back pain - tell me about !

 

Here's a weird back pain story: Many, many years ago, I slipped in a bookshop - an unseen step - and fell. Some weeks later, I developed sciatica - the fall had obviously trapped the sciatic nerve, which gave me gyp for a long time. Then - about 4 years ago, I missed my step while loading music gear on to the stage at my local village hall. I fell a clear four feet and landed on my back and side, breaking a rib and giving myself a huge blue bruise  the size of Africa on my bum and back.

 

All healed up now, but - you know what? The fall from the stage cured my sciatica - must have freed the nerve! :D

Edited November 2, 2014 by WillFly

[bobm12]

Hi Will, my mother-in-law has headaches, do you recommend to throw her head first from the roof of the house as a cure? It is a little over 4 ft though...

[ro63rto]

One of my "accidents" involves me in Italy (San Gimignano), an ice cream parlour voted the best in the world 3 years running and an, unseen by me, 12" high kerb.

Try and have a guess what happened next? [emoji9]

Been feeling the pain since 2008 for that one. To think, preparing for that holiday i also fell down my stairs **BLEEP** first carrying two suitcases. [emoji35]

[WillFly]

Hi Will, my mother-in-law has headaches, do you recommend to throw her head first from the roof of the house as a cure? It is a little over 4 ft though...

Well... it's a thought... :D

[ro63rto]

Right. Eyes ok today so gonna give it another go to remove movement.

Also, this arrived today so should help in removing and resetting the loose hands.

Along with the 2.5X LED lit magnifying glass on a stand i got from Lidl last week.

[ro63rto]

It lives [emoji1]

Movement ring needed coaxing slightly.

Took off hands, clicked date to just past midnight and reseated hands one by one. All working now.

That magnifying glass from Lidl is useless. Yes it has 2.5x but when the lens is at the correct height you can't get your tools under it [emoji35] . Going to Maplin tomorrow for the Optivisor.

BTW.... Says 6309-5282R on the dial. If I Google it, nothing comes up [emoji20] but if I enter 6309-523A lots of pics like mine appear. How come?

Edited November 6, 2014 by ro63rto

[Geo]

Good result Roberto, that's weird about the number though.

[ro63rto]

Good result Roberto, that's weird about the number though.

Probably an India special. Case back also has a different number [emoji20]

[Blacklab]

Nice one Rob. All Seiko dials are the same in that the the last couple of digits differ from the case number, part number perhaps?

[ro63rto]

Keeps pretty good time up to now.

Need to change the bracelet though, links are very loose.

[NigelNorski]

Hi Roberto, I just purchased a Seiko bracelet from this ebay seller for my 7005-8020 and yes I got a bracelet for a 7005-8020... magic...

 

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/belvederewatchstraps?_trksid=p2047675.l2563