Fake oris?

[9am53]

I have a citizen eco drive I’m not fond of and am planning on trading a buddy for either an old oris or a seiko 5.  Here is all I have to go on of the oris...I like the colours of the dial and it looks to be about 38mm which is my cut off for wearability...but when I google vintage oris I can’t seem to find any that look quite like this one.  It makes me worry it’s fake.  Any tips on what to look for when I see it?

[9am53]

One more thing about the watch, apparatly the previous owner replaced the crystal.  A real oris would have a sapphire crystal would it not?

[JerseyMo]

you must first look inside at the movement.  Find the cal or serial number.  look for case numbers etc and than do some research.

[bjd1020]

Thats a fake.

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[AdamC]

Sorry to say it’s a fake. Loads of that dial style on ebay. They’re made in India. Should be a white plastic retaining ring holding a 17 jewel movement if you open the back. I know because I got caught too and moved it on.


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[yankeedog]

Looks like the bidding started at 99 cents on that one.

[9am53]

damn.

 

thanks guys.  my gut was right...as usual. 

[9am53]

Is this one fake too? It has the plastic ring...

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223633746004

[bjd1020]

Is this one fake too? It has the plastic ring...
 
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.ca%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F223633746004

Yes. This guy has been reported about a 1000 times. Its ashamed as many times as this style oris has been reported that ebay still allows them.

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[9am53]

Crikey, thanks guys.  I will open up my buddies faux-ris and have a look-see.  I’m curious to see why it looks like.  I’ll look for the white ring and anything else stamped on it.  I won’t proceed with the trade though.  I think the seiko 5 is too small for me so I’ll likely just not make the deal at all .  That’s a shame.

[watchweasol]

Hi   Movement is filthy and look at where the stem is and how the ring has been chopped. Leave well alone

[Omegajeff]

They are all over eBay. I would say if you see one with a cool dial go for it. ST96 seems to have been a pretty solid movement. Hit/miss sometimes. Automatic watch for a cheap price. 

[9am53]

I’d take this watch for 20 bucks if it wasn’t a counterfeit.  There’s plenty of nice Chinese watches for under 50 bucks on all the China sites that aren’t frauds.

[bjd1020]

I’d take this watch for 20 bucks if it wasn’t a counterfeit.  There’s plenty of nice Chinese watches for under 50 bucks on all the China sites that aren’t frauds.

Totally agree. Its all about value. I have a few nice chinese watches......paid a bit more than 50 bucks though.

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[Nucejoe]

ST96 movements Oris used were signed on one of the bridges, crowns were signed  as well as the case backs, however, dials are the rare and valuable hallmarks. Even if all parts were original, a non genuine dial, knocks the value of the piece down to that of used parts.

 ST96 movements currently made in India are at worst of slightly inferior quality to vintage Asian made one's put in Oris. Only Oris calibers were swiss made.