Watch movement I.D

[gary17]

Hey guys

This is a tawek watch from the 40s. There is not much on the web about them. What little bit i did source said tawek at this period use phenix movement cal 130.

The mainspring and the winding stem were broke so i ordered the parts from cousins. 

Ranfft says     Zf1221, 1.50 x 9.0 x 0.11 x 260mm

cousins said    1.50x.11x300x9  which is the one they sell for that movement.

Well the spring and winding stem do not fit.

Plus just dug the old mainspring out of the bin and its only 180 mm in length.

So i presume this is not a phenix 130.

As i always say and mean any assistance greatly received.

pocs below its just tagged together now but its all there. (mostly)

I can take more if needed.

cheers

gary

[WatchMaker]

Since you're still waiting on an answer let's look at the keyless works for the 130 from Bestfit*...

Obviously your setting lever spring is broken but even with that in mind there's not a good match on the shape of parts. But there's a 250...

... and that I'm sure you'll agree looks a lot more promising. The thing is you've embarked on a 10.5''' journey with the 130 and the 250 is only a 9.75'''. So let's start there. Do you want to confirm the size of the movement you have ... is it a 10.5''' or 9.75''' diameter? I can relay more information once we know we're not going down a blind alley.

*I know you ask a fair few questions on this forum so are obviously doing a lot of activity and on a large variety of movements. Worth getting a Bestfit catalogue as it's a mine of information. Under a tenner: https://mccawcompany.com/product/bestfit-encyclopedia-books-111-111a-digital-download-pdf-version/

[gary17]

Hey 

Thanks for your time.

It is 9.75 lignes so a 250. I have the bestfit book but did not know what to search for and it is a damn big volume to go through page by page.

cheers

gary

[WatchMaker]

Glad I could help.

Oh I see. FYI: you'd done the good work in identifying it as a Phenix (crescent with star) which of course cuts down the search parameters. I opened my Bestfit PDF and just did a search for 'phenix' and then next-next-next until reaching the keyless works silhouettes. When it was clear it wasn't the 130 the 250 shone out. And that would explain the shorter mainspring too.

 

[JohnR725]

3 hours ago, gary17 said:

I have the bestfit book but did not know what to search for and it is a damn big volume to go through page by page.

Learning the secrets in the bestfit book is not a Quick learning process it takes some time.

I would initially just thumb through it see what it has to offer. Then if you're thumbing through you can combine the bonus hidden gems like for instance PDF page 795. A entire section on installing a watch crown. There's all kinds of stuff like that hidden through the book.

Then for your example in the beginning of the book they have the symbols so you can look up your symbol and get a company name. That helps to narrow things down considerably. Otherwise with the size you just go to the fingerprint section and figure out what you have. Fortunately up until modern times the set bridges are all unique.

Well worthwhile taking the time to learn.

 

[Xilikon]

On 12/17/2020 at 11:39 AM, WatchMaker said:

*I know you ask a fair few questions on this forum so are obviously doing a lot of activity and on a large variety of movements. Worth getting a Bestfit catalogue as it's a mine of information. Under a tenner: https://mccawcompany.com/product/bestfit-encyclopedia-books-111-111a-digital-download-pdf-version/

Thanks for the Bestfit catalogue link, I was looking for that for a while when I read people mentioning them to identify movements and parts.