Can't get this movement into case

[Lc130]

Hi All

I a beginner and just finished getting this PUW 1561 looking reasonable on the timegrapher.  I can't get it back in the case!  It was running with low amplitude when it arrived.  But it was running.

The hands rub and stop the movement when I place it in the case and it rests on the crystal. I don't recall anything other than this brass spacer in the case.  Every manner of spacer and movement positioning have failed. This is an ebay purchase from Bulgaria (nuf-said).  It was missing calendar works parts.  The movement is PUW 1561, the rest could be anything.  But it was working before my beginner hands got at it.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Charlie

 

 

 

 

[oldhippy]

Have you replaced the glass? If you have are you sure the replacement is the correct one. 

[watchweasol]

Hi As Old Hippy mentioned, Basically what have you changed/done, if the glass was changed. the brass ring you have is the dial rest (145) and probably goes in before the movement.    Tech sheet attached.

PUW 1560, 1561, 1563.pdf

[Lc130]

I didn't change the glass I've tried everything.  I can't get it to fit.  The brass dial rest I have may be a generic retaining ring. 

J Borel here in the US doesn't have a dial rest (part number 145) for a 1561.  They do have it for PUW 1563 as shown below.  1563 is part of the same family according to Ranfft http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&0&2uswk&PUW_1561

Any idea if one of these is worth a try?

 

 

 

[handwound]

So the movement was running inside the case when you received it? and now it is just running outside the case? Check from the side if the hands are fited correctly, so they are not bent and are not touching the dial or each other. Maybe that could help

[Woolshire]

Are there case screws on it? If you didn’t replace those, that could explain your issue.

[Lc130]

Thank you.  The hands appear to be okay.  There are case screw holes that may have held the movement in place with some long lost retaining ring.  I’ve sent it off to a real watchmaker to sort out.  Hopefully