Need help identifying small cylinder escapement pocket watch movement

[patchwerk]

The minute wheel on it has a broken tooth and I can’t start trying to source a replacement without knowing the movement type. It is small and has no markings. Any ideas?

 

 

[watchweasol]

Hi  Probably the best way of identifying the watch is through the books  Bestfit catalogues. They were available to down load on the site, have search for either mediafire or the bestfit books. they were down loaded by Old Hippy(moderator) some time ago.  The watch keyless work identification is in the books Vol l and ll and is a good reference to have in your collection.            cheers 

[oldhippy]

Sorry to say it's not in the Bestfit book. I have looked in another old book and nothing in that one. Apart from in being a swiss cylinder movement that is all I can say. 

Have you thought about putting a new tooth in the wheel? Or don't you feel confident in undertaking such a task. 

[patchwerk]

6 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Sorry to say it's not in the Bestfit book. I have looked in another old book and nothing in that one. Apart from in being a swiss cylinder movement that is all I can say. 

Have you thought about putting a new tooth in the wheel? Or don't you feel confident in undertaking such a task. 

Thanks for checking. 

I haven’t done that before. Any tips or guides?

[oldhippy]

I need to see the wheel. But if you have never undertaken such a repair it will be extremely difficult for you. Do you have anyone near you that could undertake such a repair to an antique watch?

[jdm]

18 hours ago, patchwerk said:

The minute wheel on it has a broken tooth 

Please post a picture of the broken part and precise measurements if possible. 

 

[HSL]

I’m not very sure but I think that remind me of an LeCoultre & Co ladies pocket watch movement.
Not very much parts for those out there.

 

Just to make an comparison I  actually found an link here..
 

 

Edited May 29, 2021 by HSL
Added link

[Nucejoe]

 

[patchwerk]

7 hours ago, jdm said:

Please post a picture of the broken part and precise measurements if possible. 

 

Width 4.55mm. Secondary Width ~1.4mm

Hole width .55mm

[oldhippy]

If you watched the video it would be the same procedure with this wheel only you don’t need to tip the teeth. You never know someone on here might have one that will fit.

[jdm]

10 hours ago, patchwerk said:

Width 4.55mm. Secondary Width ~1.4mm Hole width .55mm

Here in the sanctuary of cylinder watches i have found a candidate, the rightmost. Hole is a bit smaller, you will have to redrill or carry over the pinion. 

Give me your address in PM and i will send a couple at no charge. 

[oldhippy]

That is good news. Well done jdm. 

[KarlvonKoln]

That was quick.  JDM saves the day!

[jdm]

15 hours ago, KarlvonKoln said:

That was quick.  JDM saves the day!

The saver here is an old Master watchmaker (Lino Ceccarelli) that beside too many other things to be told here, patiently saved and orderly stored all the parts he could get his hands on.
What a difference with a service center or even independent repairer of today that can only look in the computer if a brand new part is available for swapping.

[patchwerk]

On 5/31/2021 at 8:54 AM, jdm said:

The saver here is an old Master watchmaker (Lino Ceccarelli) that beside too many other things to be told here, patiently saved and orderly stored all the parts he could get his hands on.
What a difference with a service center or even independent repairer of today that can only look in the computer if a brand new part is available for swapping.

DMed