Trying to identify Record Pocketwatch movement.

Moose · November 8, 2021

Just received this to repair from by brother-in-law. Dial markings show It’s a Record Dreadnaught (AA) pocketwatch. But I’m struggling to identify the movement.

Looking at Ranfft, I can’t see anything that looks like it. The movement appears to be unmarked, apart from “17 Jewels” and “Swiss made”. It’s Hunter sized and although I have not measured it, I’m guessing it’s about 16’’’ to 19’’’. (I’ll measure it if it becomes necessary.)

it needs a new balance staff and also a replacement click spring. The click spring is certainly not as shown in any of the Ranfft references for Record movements, as it is a flat, “U” shaped spring, with an upturned end which engages with the ratchet-wheel to provide the click. This bit is broken off, so won’t click.

The other more obvious feature which differentiates mine from this shown on Ranfft, are that the train-wheel jewels are screw retained, not pressed in.

can anyone assist with an identification?

JohnR725 · November 8, 2021

7 hours ago, Moose said:

I have not measured it, I’m guessing it’s about 16’’’ to 19’’’. (I’ll measure it if it becomes necessary.)

If you have the bestfit book you would know there's something called the fingerprint system at least I think that's what it's called. Specifically the setting parts of most early watches are all unique. So you can look up your setting parts and see if it matches anything. If somebody on the group was being nice and helping you out then it would be really nice if it give them a diameter size. Because otherwise I would have to look at all of the 16 through 19 to see if I can find it as opposed to you would give us the size. Then it would be nice if you took the screw off the setting parts and put those so I can see those better. Like I like Tbilisi the lever underneath.

7 hours ago, Moose said:

it needs a new balance staff

Then worst-case if we can't find it you get the measurements of the balance staff we can see if we find anything close. Because there are some reference material out there that lists staffs by size. It would be a lot easier to modify an existing staff then to make it only one.