Correct movement for dial

[gina]

Hello!

I found some cool vintage watch dials and was wondering how I find the correct movement, size wise? For instance, one of them, the dial is 25.45mm and the feet positions are at 2:10 and 8:10.

 

Thank you in advance.

gina

[Nucejoe]

Brand name, complications, size, and number of jewels can help guiding us to a movement. 

[gina]

oh. Good questions. It can be anything. It's for a fun project so it doesn't really matter, as long as it fits. No day/date or second hand. Not sure what other specifics would help?

[gina]

(I was thinking a Seagull movement if they would work)

[watchweasol]

Hi Gina  best if you post some pic's of the dial/dials you are referring to along with the sizes etc, armed with that information members will have an idea of what you are looking for.  It is doubtful if you will get an exact fit without resositioning or removing the dial feet.

[gina]

oh, ok. 

Size: 25.45mm in diameter

Feet Positions: 4:40 and 10:50

Not sure if you can still see the item, but here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/381178557314

[watchweasol]

 Hi Gina which movement depends on how much you want to spend. Depending on your location , Jules Borel and Esslingers in the US offer movements the likes of Miyota,  Seiko,  Ronda,   sellita etc so its best to peruse their web sites and check out the movements on offer and the physical sizes.  Have you a case or is that somthing you will have to get.  By The way  The Chinese movements are almost impossible to get parts for and the technical information is almost zero. The seagull movements are not bad finish is usually a bit dubious but reasonably priced.  I believe Perrins in Canada list the Chinese movements

[bjohnson]

19 hours ago, gina said:

 

I once had an Ernest Borel automatic that had a AS1361 movement.  Wouldn't it be a happy coincidence if the dial feet for that movement match your dial.

[gina]

It sure would! I will look it up.

Thank you.

g

[gina]

I will need a case, too. I'm looking on the Jules Borel site now.

Thanks again for your help.

[jdm]

58 minutes ago, gina said:

I will need a case, too.

Cases for that kind of watches are almost impossible to find even as NOS.

 

[gina]

Well that's not good

[gina]

On 11/29/2021 at 6:12 AM, watchweasol said:

Hi Gina  best if you post some pic's of the dial/dials you are referring to along with the sizes etc, armed with that information members will have an idea of what you are looking for.  It is doubtful if you will get an exact fit without resositioning or removing the dial feet.

I just received the dial. This one's feet are just before the 5 and 11, but I don't know exactly what the positions are.

[gina]

I now understand how difficult it is to find the correct movement. 

 

Thanks again for all the help.

[WatchMaker]

Hi @gina  If this is just for a fun project then also consider dial feet dots.

Whilst for purity and ultimate security then dial feet (posts) are favoured, the adhesive dots can provide a possible solution. This means you can remove original dial feet and thus fit a dial to a movement of your choice with dots instead. For the amateur this avoids needing to invest in a dial feet soldering machine or otherwise learn the fine art of feet positioning which is a precision art in itself.

Edited December 4, 2021 by WatchMaker

[watchweasol]

Hi Gina   As said by watchmaker dial dots can be used if the feet are wrong, be careful if the movement has day/date complications it can be problematic achieving the clearance required. you can also purchase dial feet which glue on to re position the dial,available from most good material houses and ebay,    so plenty of options

[gina]

Oh cool, that's good info. Thank you both. I do have a 3rd generation watchmaker near me who agreed with what everyone has been saying about the difficulty of matching a movement, but he may be able to help with the feet, if I find the right movement. (No day/date on this dial).