Seiko Movement Required

[Tiny]

Hello I was watching a video on youtube, someone was servicing a Seiko watch and had a donor watch in fact he used two donors for parts ( he was fixing the watch for a friend) he needed a date wheel and date plastic cog and they where worn and teeth missing. 

I know my numbers move but not the days or the week, I also no my rotor is very stiff also lots of movement in the key works.

 

so I was just wondering if anyone has a spare donor I could buy I have seen movements on the bay BUT they a in India and I've been told by two different people to stay well away from India movement and watches.

So I have my begging bowl out I have found that the parts are discontinued and hard to find I would like to buy new if possible but needs must 

 

sorry if this sort of post is not aloud or I have offended anyone I am sorry however I'm a noobie and yet to find my way around sourcing parts and buying watches that don't have problems in finding parts. if this is not allowed please please delete 

James

[Paul80]

What's the movement number ?

[Tiny]

@Paul80

Sorry I thought it was in the post It's Seiko 7019 

silly old me

[watchweasol]

Hello T  I would take a look at the Ranfft web site (google Ranfft seiko 7019) and you will get a page on the seiko including all the family generations which may also contain the parts you need as a donor. fron what I looked at the 7009A is compatible., so it may widen your search and opertunity for bits.  To that end I have attached the sheets for the 7019 and the 7009A so you may compare the parts and numbers.  hope you dind it usefull    cheers.

599_Seiko7019A (1).pdfFetching info... 277_Seiko7009A (6).pdfFetching info...

[JohnR725]

  On 4/26/2022 at 7:05 AM, Tiny said:

It's Seiko 7019 

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The link below has cross references for your watch. You can click on each of the parts you need and it will tell you all the watches that cross reference with that part. That makes it a lot easier to find donor movements because opens up the possibilities quite a bit.

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=SEK_7019A

[Tiny]

I would like to thank WW and JohnR for your wonderful links and advice. This is truly a amazing forum you all do the watchmaking Hobbyist a wonderful service, people in this family of watchmakers a great service. I can't wait for a time when I can repay the depth of knowledge that is given freely. 

 

again big thank you  

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 4/26/2022 at 1:50 PM, Tiny said:

I would like to thank WW and JohnR for your wonderful links and advice. This is truly a amazing forum you all do the watchmaking Hobbyist a wonderful service, people in this family of watchmakers a great service. I can't wait for a time when I can repay the depth of knowledge that is given freely. 

 

again big thank you  

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Let us know how you get on T keep it going matey  

Edited April 26, 2022 by Neverenoughwatches

[Tiny]

I have ordered a movement from this web site

https://speedtimerkollektion.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=7019&search_in_description=1&sort=2a&page=6&fbclid=IwAR377gJbxD_EsuxwxwV63JjjKbMmgF4XgyY9vsMcc_ivlk1lxWT5Ab5HdJo

 

It's like a German ebay shop

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 4/26/2022 at 8:15 PM, Tiny said:

I have ordered a movement from this web site

https://speedtimerkollektion.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=7019&search_in_description=1&sort=2a&page=6&fbclid=IwAR377gJbxD_EsuxwxwV63JjjKbMmgF4XgyY9vsMcc_ivlk1lxWT5Ab5HdJo

 

It's like a German ebay shop

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Ey. Tiny. Nice one fella. You've found a Seiko breaker.  His feedback looks pretty  good as well . Others on the forum may be interested . I think Klassika is a Seiko fan. How's it going with you

[watchweasol]

Speedtimerkollection.com in europe is a mine of second user bits  as is welwynwatchparts.co.uk always worth a look when hunting spares. good to have them on your system.

[grsnovi]

  On 4/26/2022 at 9:14 PM, watchweasol said:

Speedtimerkollection.com

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Wasn't able to get to this one (from USA).

[Neverenoughwatches]

  On 4/26/2022 at 8:15 PM, Tiny said:

I have ordered a movement from this web site

https://speedtimerkollektion.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=7019&search_in_description=1&sort=2a&page=6&fbclid=IwAR377gJbxD_EsuxwxwV63JjjKbMmgF4XgyY9vsMcc_ivlk1lxWT5Ab5HdJo

 

It's like a German ebay shop

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How did you get on with the flipping technique T ?

[ObsessiveHorologist]

I'd avoid others in the Seiko 70** series and hold out for a 7019, to avoid compatibility issues on the few parts that aren't interchangable.   
You should do well with a movement from speedtimerkollektion. Unfortunatly, their photos all show the motion side, and it seems like your issues are on the calendar side.

The problem is that there are different day stars/discs for different watch models.
Crown position in watch case: as you can see in the watch examples on the speedtimerKollektion page, some watches have the crown at 3pm, and some at 4pm. The day/date window is always at 3pm, and the movements are identical apart from the daydisk - the wrong model will result in a totally misaligned day. (Sometimes this happens even with the correct daywheel as it starts slipping on it's star - that can be rectified by re-tightening it, ideally with a staking set, but you can improvise)

Colour: most are white, but some are black.

Language: All are dual language - English and a choice of Spanish, French, Kanji (japanese), Arabic, and possibly others that I haven't come across.

 

Your issue may be with the day finger, but if I recall those are metal on the 7019, and are protected from users quicksetting close to midnight, so should be ok -- see attached photo.

So you may be better of on ebay where you can see the dial. You don't have to wait for a movement - you'll likely come across a tired old (usually gold plated) watch that is ready for scrapping. If the second hand has moved between photos that suggests it's at least ticking.
Best, Jake O

[Tiny]

O'no just looked at image for the spare movement and the date is at 3 and mine is at 4 fingers crossed I don't need any day parts

 

thank you for the info