ETA 2898-2 Documentation?

[Kalanag]

A friend asked me whether I could service his Revue Thommen „Triple Date Moon Phase“. It was built in the ’90s and should a have a caliber ETA 2898-2. Can somebody in this friendly forum help me with a documentation of the dial side? I cann‘t find anything in the net (except these photos).

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Edited June 15, 2022 by Kalanag

[jdm]

52 minutes ago, Kalanag said:

.Can somebody in this friendly forum help me with a documentation of the dial side?

The "dial side" is a separate complication module not made by ETA but by Dubois Dépraz, which doesn't release any documentation or parts. You can find an article and video at https://www.thenakedwatchmaker.com/decon-dubois-depraz-full-calendar

[Kalanag]

23 minutes ago, jdm said:

The "dial side" is a separate complication module not made by ETA but by Dubois Dépraz, which doesn't release any documentation or parts. You can find an article and video at https://www.thenakedwatchmaker.com/decon-dubois-depraz-full-calendar

Great info and perfect pictures! Thank you so much! That‘s more than I dared to expect!

I like to have an idea of what to find inside before I open a valuable watch.

[JohnR725]

4 hours ago, jdm said:

The "dial side" is a separate complication module not made by ETA but by Dubois Dépraz, which doesn't release any documentation or parts. You can find an article and video at https://www.thenakedwatchmaker.com/decon-dubois-depraz-full-calendar

That was a very nice website link by the way

in addition to sources like that for the chronograph module sometimes the companies that are using the module I've seen that they have servicing information. I was looking at something the other day going through a series of documents and I saw chronograph module just can't quite remember which one was in.

Then a course there is the problem of even with the documentation And pretty pictures getting spare parts Will probably be an issue

[Kalanag]

The watch arrived today. This beautyful timepiece has been serviced from time to time by a professional watchmaker who closed his business some years ago. 

The case needs a new gold plating. My plan is to remove the movement and the crystals and give the case to a professional goldsmith nearby. He said he can do the cleaning, polishing and plating.

I‘m going to service the movement and will report here soon.

The journey begins!

The timegrapher shows a decent amplitude, zero beat error and a significant time loss.

I found the seconds hand loose and - as a result - circular marks on the inside of the front crystal

 

The obvious reason for the loose seconds hand was a minutes hand not pressed deep enough onto its pinion preventing the seconds hand tube reaching its deep sitting pivot.

 

When inspecting the case the first question to my fellows here came up: How to deal with these tiny pushers. Must they be pressed out before replating the case? If yes, to which side? Thanks for any help!

 

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by Kalanag

[Kalanag]

I would like to report that removing the triple-date-moon-phase module from the ETA 2892-2 was more than easy without the necessity of any disassembling on the module. It is held by the dial feet screws of the ETA’s main plate and can just be lift off (The dial is tightened to the module by two other screws).

 

 

Edited June 27, 2022 by Kalanag

[Kalanag]

I forgot to mention that the date module seems not to be made by Dubois-Depraz. The quality standard is lower and the month can only be changed with the pusher by hand. There is no manufacturer logo stamped on the plate

Edited July 14, 2022 by Kalanag

[Kalanag]

To finalize this thread I like to report that I successfully serviced the movement. I used the old pushers in the newly gold plated case. The plating was done by a goldsmith after I had removed the crystals, the crown tube and the pushers. The crown and the front crystal are new. My friend is happy wearing a good looking watch again 

 

Edited August 22, 2022 by Kalanag

[Bill123]

I am a newby with watch maintenance. Could you tell me if it is possible to take the movement out without dissembling the watch hands and dial? Thanks. Bill. 

*****@*****.tld

[JohnR725]

2 hours ago, Bill123 said:

Could you tell me if it is possible to take the movement out without dissembling the watch hands and dial?

always best to start a new discussion as I regard each watch as unique. Then which watch the same as in this discussion or some other watch? We always need a little more information but typically not always on wristwatches you can usually remove the stem and of course the back possibly a movement ring and the movement will come out. Typically you would never take the dial and hands off to get a watch out of the case.

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, Bill123 said:

I am a newby with watch maintenance. Could you tell me if it is possible to take the movement out without dissembling the watch hands and dial? Thanks. Bill. 

*****@*****.tld

Yes that i how its usually done, once the movement is out then you can access the dial retaining screws, tabs or however it is fixed. The hands can then also be removed safely, try not to lay the movement face down until they've been taken off or you could bend them or scratch the dial if they press up against it. Most of us use hand levers and a thin plastic film cover over the dial and hands to protect it from the levers, i prefer to use paper with a slit in it slipped under the hands, this way the hands can be picked up from the paper without fear of dial damage. But as John suggests begin a new thread regarding your watch as there are a few methods for removing movements that are specific to the case style.