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Hi watch repairer people, I've just inherited these two watches from an elderly family member and I really don't know how to go about identifying them - apart from the main makers marks?

Could any kind soul shed some light on either of these lovely timepieces and maybe an indicator of resale prices?

(I have no other information apart from the fact that my elderly family member is VERY old and they received them from someone who is ancient :-)

Regards

Steve

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 Record made high  grade  in-house movements and the company was at some point acquistioned by Longines, some Record movements power Longines watches. I guess the caliber in your wstch is 640, not sure if this was a Chrono grade movement. If a runner it should at least fetch €100. Its a keeper in my book.

Emperor were typically powered by AS or ETA, I'd say aprox €20. 

No need to show the movements, if you can just confirm or tell us the calibers so to be sure.

Rgds

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Hi Nucejoe,

Many thanks for the information. I’ve managed to open the Record and the photo of the inside is below. I can’t see any mention of “640” so not sure if it’s that model? It does seem to work and keep time so that’s a positive 👍

Regards

Steve

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Its caliber 022-18,  as beautiful and  good as 640. 

8 hours ago, WatchWatcher said:

It does seem to work and keep time so that’s a positive 👍

So it needs no parts and is worth more than my previous estimate.   

My favourate brand. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

Its caliber 022-18,  as beautiful and  good as 640. 

So it needs no parts and is worth more than my previous estimate.   

My favourate brand. 

 

 

Is the crown signed? 

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Many thanks again Nucejoe, I've had a good look and I don't "think" there's anything written on the crown - there's "something" but it might just be scratches?

I will take your advice. I'll advertise them on eBay. I'll put a reasonable starting price on the "Record" of around £80 and around the £20 mark for the "Emporer"

Many thanks again for all your help.

Steve

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One last question…

I’ve wound the watch up as much as I can (a good few turns) but it only lasts for about 12 hours? I don’t know whether it’s possible to overwind it which is why I haven’t gone too crazy! 

Does this kind of mechanism require you to wind it up daily?

Can I wind it too much??

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Nominal power reserve of this caliber is 41hrs. 

I crack the barrel open, clean to check its inside plus a new mainspring& lubrication, that should give you at least 35 hrs actual reserve.

Good luck

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1 hour ago, WatchWatcher said:

Can it be overwound?

No it can not, the crown stops turning at the full wind. 

If it does not stop, then spindle or arbour has lost grip.

Open a manual wind barrel, to see how it works. Do not please hesitate to ask your questions and pictures help.

Rgds

 

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