Omega documentation

[easthammer]

Does anybody have the documentation/specifications on what vintage Omegas should meet in regards to accuracy? 
 

I have ready that it should be between 250-300 du and dd and 230-270 vertical. I’m just after somthing to back this up 

[JohnR725]

13 hours ago, easthammer said:

vintage Omegas

what is your definition of vintage?

13 hours ago, easthammer said:

I have ready that it should be between 250-300 du and dd and 230-270 vertical. I’m just after somthing to back this up

then you won't find what you're looking for. The group will be impressed though but Omega would not be impressed at all. This group you've achieved 300° amplitude outstanding. Silly watch companies like Omega or Rolex they're more concerned with whether the watch keeps time. That's because the silly customers want their watches to be on time and customers typically don't have timing machines to see if there amplitude is within proper specifications.

the only time you Rolex Omega are concerned about amplitude is if he gets too high that could be an issue but on any of the timing specifications all they're concerned about is at 24 hours typically in a specific position like one of the crown/pendant positions does it have a minimum amplitude.

then without a specification of what vintage is the end are working instruction number 28 they have timing specifications for hundreds of watches but anything that they don't have timing specifications for falls into the category in the image below. although this isn't even entirely complete because you'll depend upon the grade of your watch a chronometer grade watch should keep better time keeping them a generic watch and with each of the increases in a quality of timing the increase the number of positions for timekeeping. So a chronometer grade watch the time and six positions and a standard grade they were usually time and three positions.

 

[easthammer]

On 5/8/2023 at 1:21 AM, JohnR725 said:

what is your definition of vintage?

then you won't find what you're looking for. The group will be impressed though but Omega would not be impressed at all. This group you've achieved 300° amplitude outstanding. Silly watch companies like Omega or Rolex they're more concerned with whether the watch keeps time. That's because the silly customers want their watches to be on time and customers typically don't have timing machines to see if there amplitude is within proper specifications.

the only time you Rolex Omega are concerned about amplitude is if he gets too high that could be an issue but on any of the timing specifications all they're concerned about is at 24 hours typically in a specific position like one of the crown/pendant positions does it have a minimum amplitude.

then without a specification of what vintage is the end are working instruction number 28 they have timing specifications for hundreds of watches but anything that they don't have timing specifications for falls into the category in the image below. although this isn't even entirely complete because you'll depend upon the grade of your watch a chronometer grade watch should keep better time keeping them a generic watch and with each of the increases in a quality of timing the increase the number of positions for timekeeping. So a chronometer grade watch the time and six positions and a standard grade they were usually time and three positions.

 

Thanks this helps very much. I was talking about 1950-70's but this helps me tremendously. 

[JohnR725]

39 minutes ago, easthammer said:

I was talking about 1950-70's

I don't suppose you have specific caliber numbers?

On 5/7/2023 at 4:12 AM, easthammer said:

Does anybody have the documentation/specifications on what vintage Omegas should meet in regards to accuracy? 

if you look at the link below you will see Omega documentation. All very interesting and useful documentation. My favorite is number 40 the lubrication guide. If you look at the documentation you'll notice something interesting. every single one of those Omega documents on every single PDF page on every single corner has what I call a watermark. We know exactly who downloaded it where they are and when they download. It makes you wonder why the companies are so paranoid over where the documentation goes. This explains why he basically won't find in a modern Swatch group Rolex or a lot of other companies out there available because nobody wants to risk losing their source of information. So yes Omega has documentation on timing specifications but you're never going to get the PDF. The best to get some kind soul might snip out something for you.

https://www.cousinsuk.com/document/search?SearchString=working

49 minutes ago, easthammer said:

I was talking about 1950-70's

not sure that qualifies for vintage watch repair vintage has to be much much older. For instance there's a discussion at the link below at the very beginning they indicate the watch was made in the 40s and there were looking for timing specifications. So who knows if you actually have a model number may be timing specifications exist for your exact watch.

https://www.watchrepairtalk.com/topic/21985-omega-timing-baffler/#comment-219341

 

 

[easthammer]

 

this is exactly what im after but looks like the larger document will be harder to find. 

I like to review the specifications on what the calibers like 601 etc. were published as. 

Seems like they were made to have tolerances of about 40s between the 3 positions?

[JohnR725]

4 hours ago, easthammer said:

harder to find

with the exception of the working instructions that cousins has I don't actually know of any other ones out where you could download them. To access the Omega documentation he would have to find somebody with access to the Swatch group account which is not an easy thing to get. So no one in the right mind would risk a Swatch group account distribute documentations on the Internet. It's not just Swatch group Rolex does the same thing. Not only that I know someone who had a chain of stores and each time Rolex would update the documentation they had the physically send back the old documentation which explains why none of the beautiful color Rolex well almost none of them exist. There are sellers on eBay I once bought an Omega technical disc with everything they had at 2007 Lisa think that's the year all the tech sheets but over the years Omega keeps changing the numbering of stuff and I don't think there was any timing specifications on that disc because of their was it's not watermarked and I would distributors I guess I should go and check to see if it's there are not that I don't ever remember seeing it

5 hours ago, easthammer said:

calibers like 601

 

you mean like the image below?