New Screwdrivers

[Waggy]

Hi all, I took delivery of some new screwdrivers a few weeks ago, and although these are a Chinese brand (Kwong Yuen) I would highly rate them, may even prefer them to my Burgeon set. Nothing in this for me, just hope that someone who is looking can take advantage of this experience. Link here.

As a side note I also have some auto oilers of the same brand and they also work well.

[tomh207]

@Waggy I have seen comments here and elsewhere recommending this brand as being the best quality out of china.

 

Tom

[rehajm]

5 hours ago, Waggy said:

and although these are a Chinese brand (Kwong Yuen) I would highly rate them, may even prefer them to my Burgeon set. Nothing in this for me, just hope that someone who is looking can take advantage of this experience.

Good to know. Unfortunately I'd have to memorize new colors ...

[Waggy]

Colours are the same as my Burgeons, so no excuses 

Edited August 23, 2023 by Waggy

[rehajm]

4 minutes ago, Waggy said:

Colours are the same as my Burgeons, so no excuses 

I saw orange was off- bergeon orange is 050 in my set, but I see the others are the same- nice

Edited August 23, 2023 by rehajm

[Waggy]

14 hours ago, tomh207 said:

I have seen comments here and elsewhere recommending this brand as being the best quality out of china.

Chinese Bergeon 

[LittleWatchShop]

21 hours ago, rehajm said:

memorize new colors 

I had the SAME thought!!

[rehajm]

22 hours ago, tomh207 said:

@Waggy I have seen comments here and elsewhere recommending this brand as being the best quality out of china.

The best quality observed today by far… Wait- what day is it? Sunday the 1st? In fact the best quality this week- nay- dare I say- the best this MONTH!!!

Edited August 24, 2023 by rehajm
…so I can be funnier 🤪

[Mightynimrod]

Thanks for the heads up @Waggy 

[Paul80]

Surely the best quality Chinese tools are the ones branded Bergeon.

Hat coat door

[Waggy]

7 minutes ago, Paul80 said:

Surely the best quality Chinese tools are the ones branded Bergeon.

Yes, you pay a lot for that sticker.

[watchweasol]

Hi Paul 80. You may never know how close you are with that statement.  I will get my hat, coat and look for the door also.

[Galilea]

Hold up @Paul80 and @watchweasol, if you're running from the made-in-China thought police, they might find you by those coats and hats. Even LL Bean and Calvin Klein are doing it... Adidas, Nike... Leave it all behind for a clean exit. And isn't it true that all underwear and socks are Chinese? Hope it's warm where you are, and also, iPhones please. 

[team13]

Wow, true sign of a healthy bank account is not wanting to learn a new color.

[Bonji]

Thank you for this post. Adding on to it, I've done a little digging trying to get the most bang for my buck. So I really wanted a set that had a base. You can buy the screwdrivers for around $33 usd 10 Piece Screwdriver Set. The base is around $32 usd Rotating Screwdriver Base (Grey) plus $20 in shipping, with tax you are looking at about $90 which is an excellent deal for what you get but I still didn't want to spend that much.

I saw that they had the 9 piece set w/ base for $59 usd 9 Piece Screwdriver Set W/Base and I had a 'welcome discount' and got a matching 3mm screwdriver for 99 cents. 3mm Screwdriver. (without the discount the screwdriver is $6) With free shipping my total was $66.55 usd. So, I saved about $24 to go without a slot for a 3mm screwdriver. I'll take that! I hope this helps anyone looking to save a buck or two. Also, this corrects the issue of the orange 1.8mm screwdriver.

[jtking96]

Received this screwdriver set in the mail today, and I’m really impressed with the quality. 
My only initial concern is replacing blades in the future. I’ve always seen people recommend using Bergeon or Horotec replacement blades in cheap screwdrivers, but that wouldn’t work with these since they all use a 2mm shank which then tapers down to the screwdriver size.

Does anybody make a high quality blade that uses a consistent 2mm shank like these do?

[AndyGSi]

2 hours ago, jtking96 said:

Received this screwdriver set in the mail today, and I’m really impressed with the quality. 
My only initial concern is replacing blades in the future. I’ve always seen people recommend using Bergeon or Horotec replacement blades in cheap screwdrivers, but that wouldn’t work with these since they all use a 2mm shank which then tapers down to the screwdriver size.

Does anybody make a high quality blade that uses a consistent 2mm shank like these do?

What is the set? Photos would help.

[jtking96]

5 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

What is the set? Photos would help.

This is the set I bought. 

[AndyGSi]

47 minutes ago, jtking96 said:

This is the set I bought. 

To me they don't look like they're replaceable as there's no signs of a grub screw.

For me you'd have been better going for one of these Cousins Sets.

https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/value-screwdriver-sets-wooden-cases

[jtking96]

On 1/12/2025 at 9:29 AM, AndyGSi said:

To me they don't look like they're replaceable as there's no signs of a grub screw.

The blades are definitely replaceable, there is a grub screw. My concern is that the shanks for each blade are all 2mm, as compared to something like the Bergeon blades which are all the same diameter as the screwdriver tip.

[AndyGSi]

As the shanks are all the same which I can now see from the photo then unfortunately they're no good for alternative blades.

Just realised that they're also steel which is the last thing you want to be using.

[tomh207]

That manufacturer seems to have a good reputation generally and especially for screwdrivers. I would use and dress them appropriately and when you think they are getting too long in the tooth get some better ones that follow the accepted way that you can use good quality blades in. I would then get some 2mm brass rod and make bits for these for etachron adjustment, KIF spring tools and anything else you can think off. This way they will eventually become an asset rather than a pain in the backside and a waste of your precious resources.

 

Tom

p.s. I have looked and they don’t seem to sell replacement blades for these even though they make them

[jtking96]

43 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Just realised that they're also steel which is the last thing you want to be using.

Why not steel? This Bergeon 30081 set says the blades are "tempered stainless steel". These Bergeon replacement blades are listed as stainless steel. I've got no actual experience using these tools, but in my research I've never seen anyone suggest using softer materials for screwdrivers.

31 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

p.s. I have looked and they don’t seem to sell replacement blades for these even though they make them

They certainly aren't easy to find, and the prices are strange, but I found a set of standard replacement blades and a set of hollow ground replacement blades.

I love the idea of making my own tool bits to use with these handles. The handles themselves seem very high quality, maybe I'll get more experience and find that the blades are quality too and stick with them. At the very least I'll have a use for the handles though.

[AndyGSi]

27 minutes ago, jtking96 said:

Why not steel? This Bergeon 30081 set says the blades are "tempered stainless steel". These Bergeon replacement blades are listed as stainless steel. I've got no actual experience using these tools, but in my research I've never seen anyone suggest using softer materials for screwdrivers.

Yes the Bergeon are Stainless Steel which is Non Magnetic (Generally) compared with Normal Steel which is Magnetic.

The last thing you want with a watch is to have it near anything that's magnetic.

[Neverenoughwatches]

If the steel is of good quality then at a hobbyist level these blades will last you a good while.  Hats off to the manufacturer in that every driver is made the same just a different coloured top. Cost effective manufacturing compared to the stepped blades ?