Jump to content

Pocket watch lion & snake logo

Malocchio
 Share

Recommended Posts

Malocchio WRT Addict

Malocchio

Posted
Posted

Hello good people. A while ago I bought a couple of pocket watches. This one I cannot identify. Same logo appears in the dial, movement and also lid. There is a Finnish brand called Leijona (Lion) but the logo is different. Doesn't run atm, maybe just stuck. I've included some microscope pics. Also, how do I deal with that center wheel? Thanks for any info. 

leijonakäärme.png

dial.png

movement.png

movementlogo.png

centerwheel.png

back.png

JohnR725 Distinguished Member

JohnR725

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Malocchio said:

Also, how do I deal with that center wheel?

Washer looks interesting? Here is an image of what you're dealing with there is a center pin that goes in the back to the front. You get the minute hand off there is the protruding pin and you just have to tap on that and then the pin itself will come out of the hollow center wheel.

image.png.d6c7d52b42d28ae6ed5cf1c5e9995336.png

 

 

  • Like 1
Malocchio WRT Addict

Malocchio

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 hour ago, JohnR725 said:

Washer looks interesting? Here is an image of what you're dealing with there is a center pin that goes in the back to the front. You get the minute hand off there is the protruding pin and you just have to tap on that and then the pin itself will come out of the hollow center wheel.

image.png.d6c7d52b42d28ae6ed5cf1c5e9995336.png

 

 

Thanks. It seems that's a relic from the key winding days. Any idea of the movement? Looks pretty common but I haven't found out the maker.

JohnR725 Distinguished Member

JohnR725

Posted
Posted

Probably will make you unhappy but typically I don't look at who made vintage watches on this discussion group. Because tip a clay to find out who made vintage is very difficult although you do have the same symbol everywhere so maybe that can be found. But typically on vintage there just isn't's a lot of information so typically I don't worry about who made vintage watches. But I did see your cano pinions center wheel problem so I replied for that and I noticed something else right now one is looking at pictures. Looks like you have a silver case. That's because you have the 800 number on the back and here's a link it won't help you with who made the watch.

https://www.vintagewatchstraps.com/swisshallmarks.php

Only because I'm here I did take another quick look and not seeing anything here's some assembles but I don't see yours but I'm looking really fast it's past my bedtime. Often times or occasionally when you take the dial lawfully might get something helpful sometimes.

https://www.ccwatchmaker.com/list-of-trademarks1.html

It's amazing what happens if you search for the right keywords online. Such as Lion and Snake Swiss watchmakers Pocket watch. That UNICEF to go through the images and get tortured initially because my dictation software thought I met snakes with an S and now I have to have pictures of snakes in my head when I go to bed hope that won't have a nightmare but it does look like the right symbol with just one snake.

https://www.watchpaper.com/2013/12/24/reborn-of-the-g-gagnebin-cie-brand/

 

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 2
Malocchio WRT Addict

Malocchio

Posted
  • Author
Posted

Thanks John cant't believe you actually found something on that logo. The pin came out really nice. I also had to replace a cracked 3rd wheel jewel. I reamed the old rubbed in setting out and put a friction jewel in. Luckily I had exactly the right sized jewels that I used in a Zenith a while ago. 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • HectorLooi
      Hour hand won’t go past certain spot when adjusting time forwards

      By HectorLooi · Posted

      If the watch is new, just return it to the seller for a refund or replacement.
    • Randy55
      Hour hand won’t go past certain spot when adjusting time forwards

      By Randy55 · Posted

      Keevo, Welcome to the group ! I'm thinking that you have some damage to the hour, and/ or minute wheel. Possibly just a bent, otherwise damaged, or missing tooth.   Your photo didn't post that I can see. I think you'll have to open it to start really finding the issue. Best, Randy
    • Neverenoughwatches
      Diy rotary cleaning machine

      By Neverenoughwatches · Posted

      An industrial break cleaner , like Holts does a good job of rinsing off paraffin 
    • mikepilk
      Cap jewel with what looks like a circular engraving around the edge

      By mikepilk · Posted

      In cap jewels on several watches I have serviced over the years. I've recently serviced a couple of Longines movements where the cap jewels were colourless. They are a real pain. Without colour they disappear when immersed in any liquid for cleaning 😲 Not necessarily. Cousins do a 10ml bottle for £26 which will last me for years. That's just half the price of a simple Bergeon silicone cushion, so not too expensive 🤣
    • BobG
      Etachron regulation system

      By BobG · Posted

      I wanted to post an update as I have two movements running really well now, 230-250 amplitude , 0.5 and under beat error, and +/-8 seconds or so. I removed the hairspring assembly in order to start over and noticed that the terminal curve between the stud and regulator arm was distorted. The stud was lower than it should be. I massaged the curve to look pretty good and reinstalled it. I followed Alex's video advice, best I could with 10x magnification, and with the regulator arm set in the middle of the curve I adjusted the stud so the spring was centered. I then made sure I could move the regulator arm the entire terminal curve without upsetting the coils. I then put it back on the Timegrapher and began closing down the regulator pins until I saw a change in amplitude which means to me that the pins were now pinching the spring. I opened them slightly and it looks good except I have a 0 on dial down, +3 on dial up but -16 on crown down.  I'm a bit stuck on how to adjust out the positional error. I also noticed a drop in amplitude, 180-200 on crown down. In the other video link I posted at about minute 26 if I remember he adjusts out positional error by manipulating  the regulator pin gap. With crown down the hairspring falls away from the pin and the rate slows so he closes the pins a bit to keep them tighter in crown down position. That means the spring is tighter on dial up as well but then he moved the regulator arm to slow the movement.  There must be some Seiko experts here that have some methods for dialing out positional errors. 
×
×
  • Create New...