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A friend brought me this beautiful Omega to service. It's the first time I've seen this movement, so I'm looking through the technical guide for...guidance.

Sorry for the photos instead of text--I wasn't able to get a satisfactory cut-n-paste. The PDF is attached.

First question: are they suggesting *all* of these parts be treated with epilame, or just saying they are treated from the factory with a special coating?

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Most everything else I can work out:

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But my second question is this guy, from the automatic winding block. I'm assuming it's a one-way clutch, and I did not want to risk taking it apart with no knowledge of it.

So do I take it apart? How is it lubricated? I have Lubeta V105, would that be appropriate here?

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Omega 1001.pdf

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This guy unites the two reverse wheels in the usual system of winding movement. Do not take it apart, thow takin it apart is possible. You can get lost the small ratchets inside. I wouod use pure petrol to clean it ahd will rotate for some time the wheels when holding the pinion untill the guy is diped in the petrol. Then, after epilaming (if any aplied), I would use some Moebius 8000 solved in pure petrol and put a drop on the wheel, then will blow with air and let the petrol dry. This is old recepy not from Omega manuals where I have no idea what is the procedure.

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I'm just about to clean the parts of a Cal 684 which has a similar Winding Gear (#1464). I plan to clean it in my usual way (ultrasonic with Elma solutions) then dip in Lubeta V105.

As for Epilame. The only parts I'll be treating are cap/pallet jewels and escapement wheel. I'm not splashing my precious fluids all over the place !

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Did you notice in your technical documentation of 1970 it mentions this newfangled epilam stuff? One of the unfortunate problems of technical documentation is it does not magically update itself to the newest version and if it did it would disappear because it's restricted to Swatch group people only. Then there is the other problem of supplemental documentation. For instance in the late 50s in their lubrication guide they talk about epilam and practically everything in the watch. Then in the ever-changing thoughts of the day go to orally epilam adding the escapement components. But in the newest generation of stuff because epilam is less volatile solvents is more stable at room temperature they've gone back to epilam ing of the entire watch. It's actually in the last jar the cleaning machine with only a couple of things come out.

16 hours ago, ManSkirtBrew said:

But my second question is this guy, from the automatic winding block. I'm assuming it's a one-way clutch, and I did not want to risk taking it apart with no knowledge of it.

So do I take it apart? How is it lubricated? I have Lubeta V105, would that be appropriate here?

Then we're back to a Problem of time again. Yes the reverser can come apart but ideally not to destroy it you would need the special tool which you do not have. A very long time ago I worked in a shop that was Omega authorized that I was looking forward to even seeing the special tool and he didn't have it. But yes it can come apart and you really don't want to do it. I'm attaching a working instruction which came from cousins hence notice on the corners we see where it came from.  If you look on page 19 they cover lubrication of the reverser wheels. Even if and I can't remember which one one of the technical documents I have actually shows the tools explains it can be disassembled and then basically says just dip it in the whatever and be done with it and don't disassembled.

 

8645_WI_40_rules for lubrication cousins.pdf

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