Different manufacturers Cross slides that will fit a Marshall Peerless Lathe

[GULAIFU]

Having a spot of bother over finding a Cross slide that fits my Peerless Lathe. I just would love any kind of advice, Most sellers on Evil Bay haven't a clue.

 

[clockboy]

I have a microscope over my lathe. It can be swivelled out of the way when needed. I find a microscope’s superior  magnification more suitable especially when cutting small items such as balance staffs     

Edited June 6, 2024 by clockboy

[oldhippy]

Just did a basic search on google and they have come up with Marshall slide rests. 

[nickelsilver]

The Marshall Peerless lathes are a little different from most watchmaker lathes. On most, the head and tailstock locate on the bed on the angled sides of the bed (as do many other larger yet still "small" lathes). On the Peerless, the location is done in the slot in the middle of the bed, which also has angled sides.

 

On many watchmaker lathes, the slide rest uses the aid of a part called a "shoe". The shoe fits the angled sides of the bed, and the slide rest has a recess that fits the sides of the shoe. This is honestly not the best arrangement, as there are two sources of wear and so alignment issues: the fit of the shoe to the bed, and the fit of the shoe to the slide. The former can be corrected (with a lot of work), the latter not really. It's possible that Marshall made a shoe for their bed, but I don't recall seeing one.

 

Some makers made slide rests that locate against the front surface of the bed. Levin, Derbyshire, Marshall, and in some cases Leinen all made slides like this. The advantage is it eliminates the two wear points above. The slide goes on, slid up against the bed, and tightened. Easy. I believe Pultra also locate against the front of the bed, and there are certainly others. This is the style you want.

 

This is a Marshall slide rest, top and bottom

 

And an American Watch Tool rest top (with shoe) and bottom

AWT later shifted to the simple locating piece like the Marshall/Levin- and went on to become Derbyshire.

 

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by nickelsilver

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, GULAIFU said:

Having a spot of bother over finding a Cross slide that fits my Peerless Lathe. I just would love any kind of advice, Most sellers on Evil Bay haven't a clue.

 

Cool set up, i like the mag glass on the flexi arm. Doesn't it bounce around though with the vibration ? would something unattached work better.

Edited June 6, 2024 by Neverenoughwatches

[GULAIFU]

On 6/6/2024 at 3:22 AM, nickelsilver said:

The Marshall Peerless lathes are a little different from most watchmaker lathes. On most, the head and tailstock locate on the bed on the angled sides of the bed (as do many other larger yet still "small" lathes). On the Peerless, the location is done in the slot in the middle of the bed, which also has angled sides.

 

On many watchmaker lathes, the slide rest uses the aid of a part called a "shoe". The shoe fits the angled sides of the bed, and the slide rest has a recess that fits the sides of the shoe. This is honestly not the best arrangement, as there are two sources of wear and so alignment issues: the fit of the shoe to the bed, and the fit of the shoe to the slide. The former can be corrected (with a lot of work), the latter not really. It's possible that Marshall made a shoe for their bed, but I don't recall seeing one.

 

Some makers made slide rests that locate against the front surface of the bed. Levin, Derbyshire, Marshall, and in some cases Leinen all made slides like this. The advantage is it eliminates the two wear points above. The slide goes on, slid up against the bed, and tightened. Easy. I believe Pultra also locate against the front of the bed, and there are certainly others. This is the style you want.

 

This is a Marshall slide rest, top and bottom

 

And an American Watch Tool rest top (with shoe) and bottom

AWT later shifted to the simple locating piece like the Marshall/Levin- and went on to become Derbyshire.

 

 

 

[GULAIFU]

Thank you all for the help on this one. The Lathe is not up and running yet as i need to take care of a weak motor and other Di**BLEEP**elties. To me it seems as if the magnifier will get in the way a bit and as noted, have some vibration issues. I will continue a search for a cross slide, armored by the insights given. 

Thank you all !

Joe

[nickelsilver]

A microscope is essential in my opinion. I started out with a tiny Leitz head, single power (had to change eyepieces to change magnification) on a boom that swung it out of the way. When I got this little Leinen I found this Olympus, about the same size as the old Leitz but switchable 1x/ 2x, so 10x 20x with 10x eyepieces. It's on a post mounted to the lathe base, swings out of the way in a second, and can be repositioned over the work "by nose" as needed haha.

 

A lot of folks put zoom scopes on booms over the lathe; it's fine too, but I prefer this compact scope personally.

 

 

Edited June 8, 2024 by nickelsilver

[GULAIFU]

Using for watches, i will be doing Lathe work in a different room to keep the contamination down. Once i get the lathe going I think another microscope would be nice so I'm not hauling this one back and forth.