Peseux 7066 Help Needed

[systeman]

Hi everyone,

 

I'm still learning, so go on, have a laugh.

 

I've just serviced an Accurist 21J Shockmaster and got it running nicely. To lube the balance pivots I've done the classic and lost the top jewel retaining sping. I thought I was being so careful as well, but 'ping' off it went somwhere.

 

The movement is a Peseux 7066 with date function, so I assume the same spring is used in the 7060.

 

Can someone identify the spring clip required for this one. Part number and source please. I would not know where to start.

 

 

 

They seem to differ, I saw this one online which is probably a later 21J version or not a 7060/7066

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[Geo]

No one's laughing, as we've all lost bits at one time or another. It looks like a KIF Ref. 4 type of shock spring that you have lost.

Here is a link to a recent thread that shows different KIF settings.

http://www.watchrepairtalk.com/topic/1605-kif-elastor-3-2/page-2

Cousins supply KIF springs.

[systeman]

Thanks a lot for the info. I'll order some from Cousins.

 

I like the bit where is say's it can't be lost.

 

Regards to all

[rogart63]

Hi everyone,

 

I'm still learning, so go on, have a laugh.

 

I've just serviced an Accurist 21J Shockmaster and got it running nicely. To lube the balance pivots I've done the classic and lost the top jewel retaining sping. I thought I was being so careful as well, but 'ping' off it went somwhere.

 

The movement is a Peseux 7066 with date function, so I assume the same spring is used in the 7060.

 

Can someone identify the spring clip required for this one. Part number and source please. I would not know where to start.

 

top-jewel-spring.jpg

 

 

They seem to differ, I saw this one online which is probably a later 21J version or not a 7060/7066

 

top-jewel-spring-2.jpg

 

Thanks in advance.

They are not the same shocksprings .If you look att the top one it has a slot on each side . But the lower has three slots . What kind on the other side of the movement .lLooks more like incabloc springs? 

Edited October 24, 2015 by rogart63

[rogart63]

If i look in Phfactor it should be . 974.03 and 975.03 springs http://www.phfactor.net/wtf/Incabloc%20By%20Factory%20Tech%20Sheets/1290_Incabloc%20By%20Factory%20-%20Peseux.pdf

Edited October 24, 2015 by rogart63

[systeman]

Hi and thanks for the update.

 

Here's a photo of the date ring side, it looks like 2 slots.

 

[Geo]

I still think it's a KIF spring Roger. What do others think?

[canthus]

I have just worked on a PUW1561 which has a similar opening for the spring.  Tech info indicated an incabloc but this was not the same as fitted to movement and I couldn't find what type it was having pinged mine too!  Fortunately I found it again, sometimes a magnet can find as they maybe plated steel.

The pics shows the spring type fitted to the PUW.  The rounded end slips into the u shaped part and the fingers clip into the oblong part.  Best hold the curved part in the slot with teweezers or pin and move the arms in next.  Have you checked the dial side to see if the spring is the same?

 

 

[rogart63]

I still think it's a KIF spring Roger. What do others think?

Hate to be a Messersmith but it looks more like the one canthus showing . But have looked on the web and can't find any Peseux 7066 movement with that kind of spring 

[systeman]

Thanks for the input guys.

 

If i look in Phfactor it should be . 974.03 and 975.03 springs http://www.phfactor.net/wtf/Incabloc%20By%20Factory%20Tech%20Sheets/1290_Incabloc%20By%20Factory%20-%20Peseux.pdf

 

Am I right then is saying 974.03 would be for the regulator side and 975.03 the dial side?

 

It looks more Incabloc than KIF. But if you look closely at the dial side spring there's a small tongue on the spring that's in line with the slot. Maybe that was an early Incabloc.

[Geo]

All a bit strange, the one Canthus shows doesn't look like the one in the picture posted by Systeman.

Here it is enlarged.

[rogart63]

It's rather hard to see which spring is right . I vote for incabloc :)  If you could come closer with a sharp picture it would be much easier .When i enlarge the picture it gets blurry.  Maybe use the loupe as a camera lens .

[systeman]

Hi all,

 

Just to clear up any misunderstanding, the spring I'm trying to identify is for the Peseux in the first (orange background) photo. I'm not trying to identify the spring in the second photo. That photo is just to show how a similar movement has a different anti shock system to mine. I agree that one is KIF.

 

I'll try to upload a better photo tomorrow.

[Geo]

Oops my mistake, it's an age thing! :D

[canthus]

I also searched the web for ages and didn't find anything similar.  As my movement was only a 'practice' one I wasn't too desperate to find a replacement.  Unable to find a replacement I ended up filing down a similar sized incabloc (at the t-end) and just about had it fitting when ping!! off it went ino the unknown!!!   At this point I decided to move on, but thought I would have on more try at sweeping around and hey ho I found the original!  Hope you find a suitable replacement and let us know what and where.

[rogart63]

I am thinking about starting a new thread where i and others could post pictures from the web

of different shock spring models . Where shall i post it ? 

Edited October 25, 2015 by rogart63

[Geo]

Just start a new thread in this section Roger.

[rogart63]

I have just worked on a PUW1561 which has a similar opening for the spring.  Tech info indicated an incabloc but this was not the same as fitted to movement and I couldn't find what type it was having pinged mine too!  Fortunately I found it again, sometimes a magnet can find as they maybe plated steel.

The pics shows the spring type fitted to the PUW.  The rounded end slips into the u shaped part and the fingers clip into the oblong part.  Best hold the curved part in the slot with teweezers or pin and move the arms in next.  Have you checked the dial side to see if the spring is the same?

That is a Rufa antishock spring . This is a förster with Rufa springs

 

 

[systeman]

I'm back with good news.

 

While I was taking a photo of the jewel and spring on the dial side, I decided to give the movement a little tap. Guess what fell out, not just the spring, but the jewel as well. Truly remarkable.

 

So here we are then. It would still be nice if it can be indentified. I'll refit it and upload another photo in another couple of days.

 

[systeman]

Hi all,

 

Thanks for all your input. Here is the spring refitted with the orignal jewel and cap jewel.

 

Anyway, now I've refitted them I'm back to square one. It runs for a while then stops. Time to dismantle and take a closer look.