Aknight watch bracelet link removal problem

[TobieOWC]

I've removed the split pins but the links do not seperate, it seems that they are attached by another inaccessible pin. Seems a bit silly to me, anybody any idea how to do this?? 

[tomh207]

The pin you have removed is to retain the clasp. To resize the bracelet it is the next link(s) you need to remove.

 

Tom

[TobieOWC]

14 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

The pin you have removed is to retain the clasp. To resize the bracelet it is the next link(s) you need to remove.

 

Tom

Sorry, maybe the pic isn't clear enough but it doesn't matter which split pin i remove, none of the links will seperate...

[tomh207]

You are taking 2 pins out at a time ? Sorry this might be a silly question. These links are 1 piece with the pins at either end. Sometimes the links can be stiff to get clear of each other and sometimes with tight tolerance need a nudge.

 

Tom

[TobieOWC]

15 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

You are taking 2 pins out at a time ? Sorry this might be a silly question. These links are 1 piece with the pins at either end. Sometimes the links can be stiff to get clear of each other and sometimes with tight tolerance need a nudge.

 

Tom

Thanks Tom, appreciate your help. Here's another couple of pics to hopefully show the problem a little clearer. As you can see I've removed the split pins but the links are still attached by another pin in the area circled. The links move around quite freely so they aren't tight, there's definitely something holding them together. I've considered trying to seperate the individual components of the links but they are tight and it would be really easy to mark and damage them with them having a black coating on. It's a head scratcher

I should also add that I do this for a living and size 10 or more watches every day but this is baffling me

[RichardHarris123]

How strange?  If there's another pin the links would be rigid and not conform to one's wrist. 

[AndyGSi]

I'm surprised if you've done that many you've never come across this before.

I presume you don't have an integrated bracelet link removing tool?

[TobieOWC]

23 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

How strange?  If there's another pin the links would be rigid and not conform to one's wrist. 

Strange is right! There's definitely something holding it together though!

 

21 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

I'm surprised if you've done that many you've never come across this before.

I presume you don't have an integrated bracelet link removing tool?

I don't, have never needed one. The watch itself came with one of the screw type link removal tools, it seems odd that they would include that if you needed to seperate the individual link components to do the job

 

[eccentric59]

I've seen bracelet links like this before (Rolex?) that have hidden pins that require you to pull the outer link sides apart something like this ...

The split pin is so you can get a tool in there to separate the side links without damaging them. There is a special tool for this because of course there is. Not sure why they do it this way sometimes but I would suspect it's either because of the way the bracelet integrates with the case, or to sell more tools.  

[TobieOWC]

23 minutes ago, eccentric59 said:

I've seen bracelet links like this before (Rolex?) that have hidden pins that require you to pull the outer link sides apart something like this ...

The split pin is so you can get a tool in there to separate the side links without damaging them. There is a special tool for this because of course there is. Not sure why they do it this way sometimes but I would suspect it's either because of the way the bracelet integrates with the case, or to sell more tools.  

Great diagram! Yes I'm now pretty sure this is the way I need to go about it. I did try it gently so as not to do any damage to the black coating but looks like the additional tool is needed. Nowt like overcomplicating things eh! Thanks much

[tomh207]

What a over complicated way of doing something really simple, sorry if I maybe came over patronising, my limited knowledge, only trying to help.

 

Tom

[AndyGSi]

The knurled pins used in these are a lot stronger and more hard wearing than split pins which gives it more strength, especially on a heavier bracelet.

[RichardHarris123]

2 hours ago, eccentric59 said:

I've seen bracelet links like this before (Rolex?) that have hidden pins that require you to pull the outer link sides apart something like this ...

The split pin is so you can get a tool in there to separate the side links without damaging them. There is a special tool for this because of course there is. Not sure why they do it this way sometimes but I would suspect it's either because of the way the bracelet integrates with the case, or to sell more tools.  

Where is the diagram from?  I still don't understand as the link with two pins can't articulate.  

[eccentric59]

36 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Where is the diagram from?

I drew it.

 

37 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

I still don't understand as the link with two pins can't articulate.  

They articulate as if they were solid links. The red arrow indicates where the moveable joint is.

[TobieOWC]

17 hours ago, tomh207 said:

What a over complicated way of doing something really simple, sorry if I maybe came over patronising, my limited knowledge, only trying to help.

 

Tom

Not at all Tom, I appreciate your help! And yes, completely agree, unnecessary overcomplication