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Hi everyone,

I am still trying to find a decent one that I can acquire. Found one in a local antique sort of store. They are asking too much I think, especially due to the fact that the base is cracked.

I will try to explain what I saw.

The circular base has two 'rolls' for want of a better word before it gets to the top surface of the base.

The crack on this base runs at 90 degrees to the two 'rolls'. From the bottom edge of the base all the way to the top horizontal surface.

The reason I am asking is that I am wondering if the base of an anniversary clocks is brass or are they another base metal, steel?, with brass plating? If so, this clock base may be repairable. I can't remember what brand it was. Sorry.

If they are brass plated, how do you replace it so that it has a mirror finish? I have seen a couple of YT videos where the person is mechanically plating by heating the part to be plated and then vigorous brushing with a brass brush which mechanically plates the steel. However, no-one seems to answer the question of how to get a mirror finish.

Is a mirror finish only possible with electro plating? This question is in respect to another clock I have found in South Australia and the base is showing a lot of signs to suggest the brass coating is flaking off. This one is cheap compared to the one with the cracked base in the shop in Geelong.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/305654992071?itmmeta=01J23BGZFPX3T9M0KW0JMFRHSQ&hash=item472a750cc7:g:0U8AAOSwPrdmhosh&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8EZZWbbe5OzksPlS07pedENWjUwQr7W76uvFqXK6xGvVsKzeIrnXrADMGJ6yFIY4yhnuHyHnwhL1Jzc1iJvrvtnwQcDIrBR4D8ohZGFMOOdYqFEOUZ84v4IfX3i9zGofPLjWTjZg8GIXyabw%2BvMEv4kOGnaoyUweBisAHxuiz5krNTYB6EmO62NFEchTcXtEPgj4wObzxr9wrYRaNA%2Fr9AfuXmM7vhmziVWhasZJcLcIc9A4D4zmfL%2Bktz9TXknAVWPbngL3u7p8ZlmtC%2FknQVFbLoVKk2xJ69omIblJ07OwHj6oXYrtdq3fZ5%2BNspWjZw%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_T3w-uQZA&autorefresh=true

Any & all answers are appreciated.

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What the hell happened for it to have a crack in the base. Some have what I will describe as a wooden filler but not that many. If I were you I would leave that one. The one on ebay for the base lots of elbow grease very fine steel wool, you need to check for lacquer first if it is then laquer thinner then wash in soapy water but a again check to see if the base has a filler, if so be very careful with washing. 

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That base is a mess, most early bases had solid spun brass but later ones tended to be very thin brass skin over a steel substrate and a lot have as oldhippy said a wood infill & very few had brass plate.

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The clock you were looking at is  a ( Kieninger & Obergfell ) Kundo for short the base is Gustav Becker although it may fit as long as the pillar mounting holes are in the correct place the dome may not fit as the GB looks to be pre WW1 the clock is 50’s , that Kundo is not the best of quality my advice would be look for a JUF or Schatz ( same company) preferably pre WW2

There is a Schatz1000 day carriage clock for sale on eBay runs for three years on one wind quite rare in uk, I have one but with glass dome even rarer .

Dell

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