Military watch?

[RichardHarris123]

Ebay has recommended the attached, listed as a "military watch". It obviously isn't and it's not for me but guess the price.

Edited August 23, 2024 by RichardHarris123

[tIB]

I don't see anything, though I'm keen to play the game!

[RichardHarris123]

Oops, I  didn't attach the photo. 

[tomh207]

It has a 24 hour subdial, obviously only military watches have 24 hours on them’cos them folks who dress funny in crinkly green clothes use the 24 hour clock notation.

 

Tom

[Neverenoughwatches]

20 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

It has a 24 hour subdial, obviously only military watches have 24 hours on them’cos them folks who dress funny in crinkly green clothes use the 24 hour clock notation.

 

Tom

I'm  the same, i never really know whether its night or day either. 

[tIB]

Do military types have more concern with what date is coming up (and have been) than with what minute it is?

[Neverenoughwatches]

9 minutes ago, tIB said:

Do military types have more concern with what date is coming up (and have been) than with what minute it is?

In the past, priorities were ruggedness,  waterproof and accuracy, turning up 10 minutes late for a mission isn't acceptable when the action has already kicked off.

[tomh207]

44 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

In the past, priorities were ruggedness,  waterproof and accuracy, turning up 10 minutes late for a mission isn't acceptable when the action has already kicked off.

Also being 10 minutes late when it’s your shout at the NAAFI bar because you screwed up earlier in the day is a heinous crime with severe punishments dished out

 

Tom

[rehajm]

Military means they can ask more money…they should have just gone full dirty dozen…

[HectorLooi]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mqtHi1w

I found this on AliExpress. 

[JohnR725]

14 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

waterproof and accuracy

Couple weeks ago I was at a lecture on one of the Russian watches which I believe might've been a military watch. I believe it was waterproof because of the very interesting and innovative case design they worked out. Basically worked out innovative designed to get around their lack of the ability to machine out a solid stainless steel case. But I vaguely recall in the lecture the reference to timekeeping wasn't really known as the best timekeeper. So I guess it depends upon which military as to whether accuracy is important or not. Or whether the watch even continues to run for instance. 

[rjenkinsgb]

That exact same watch is advertised both as a Business watch and a Casual watch. And probably any other keyword the seller thinks may get views!

I notice all the various ad photos, with numerous different angles show the "subdial" hands in exactly the same place!

That makes me suspect there are no actual extra functions.

 

[tomh207]

5 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

That exact same watch is advertised both as a Business watch and a Casual watch. And probably any other keyword the seller thinks may get views!

I notice all the various ad photos, with numerous different angles show the "subdial" hands in exactly the same place!

That makes me suspect there are no actual extra functions.

 

I have had a couple of folk come to me because their new chrono doesn’t work, well if they are fitted with a 2 dollar 3 hand movement and pushers that are actually just bumps on the case, well not much I can do for you.

 

Tom

[JohnR725]

16 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

That makes me suspect there are no actual extra functions.

I've seen these watches on Amazon for instance visually they look expensive with their chronographs and the nifty buttons hands etc. But they do have an actual function which is to look visually like they have a function that they do not actually do at all.

[rjenkinsgb]

1 minute ago, JohnR725 said:

I've seen these watches on Amazon for instance visually they look expensive with their chronographs and the nifty buttons hands etc. But they do have an actual function which is to look visually like they have a function that they do not actually do at all.

So a "Counterfeit function" scam rather than a "Counterfeit watch" scam !??

[Neverenoughwatches]

48 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

Couple weeks ago I was at a lecture on one of the Russian watches which I believe might've been a military watch. I believe it was waterproof because of the very interesting and innovative case design they worked out. Basically worked out innovative designed to get around their lack of the ability to machine out a solid stainless steel case. But I vaguely recall in the lecture the reference to timekeeping wasn't really known as the best timekeeper. So I guess it depends upon which military as to whether accuracy is important or not. Or whether the watch even continues to run for instance. 

Sounds like  Russian military has got different priorities but lets not go there. Was it a Komandirskie, wobbly crowns and all those strange ideas ?

24 minutes ago, tomh207 said:

pushers that are actually just bumps on the case, well not much I can do for you.

 

Tom

This is the new shock design tom , watch bumpers. Like bumper cars but watches, you can shake hands in a rugged manly way with a mate that has the same watch and not worry about clanging your watches together. 

[JohnR725]

15 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

Counterfeit

I think from fuzzy memory that basically the ones on Amazon were being sold not as a counterfeit in a way that we are being sold as? Counterfeit would be more alike this watch says Rolex when it doesn't but more of you can have a fancy chronograph impress your friends and of course it's not a chronograph to falls into a gray area of what categories it in it looks like something it's not but it's not being sold as a Rolex kind of thing?

[Neverenoughwatches]

19 minutes ago, JohnR725 said:

I've seen these watches on Amazon for instance visually they look expensive with their chronographs and the nifty buttons hands etc. But they do have an actual function which is to look visually like they have a function that they do not actually do at all.

That sounds like me on a weekend, i have nifty arms and legs which make me look visually  like i should have a function , but actually i do not at all........ and get labelled as "a waste of space "

[RichardHarris123]

I'm very disappointed with the negative comments, ebay want a heafty £3.79 with free postage, so definitely fully functioning and top quality.  Hehe. 

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

I'm very disappointed with the negative comments, ebay want a heafty £3.79 with free postage, so definitely fully functioning and top quality.  Hehe. 

Sneaky

[JohnR725]

9 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Was it a Komandirskie

I looked up the title Vostok Amphibia. I found it very interesting because apparently the crown disconnects itself the watch when it gets whatever happens to it. I should have been paying attention because apparently they even have a store in the US where they can be purchased relatively inexpensively.

 

[tIB]

On 8/24/2024 at 8:16 PM, JohnR725 said:

I looked up the title Vostok Amphibia. I found it very interesting because apparently the crown disconnects itself the watch when it gets whatever happens to it. I should have been paying attention because apparently they even have a store in the US where they can be purchased relatively inexpensively.

 

I still haven't got used to setting/winding mine - there's a certain wiggle required. Weird but apparently very good function for water resistance - you should look up the guys video on YouTube who takes it down to a thousand metres of pressure (or whatever ridiculous depth it was before the acrylic shatters.)

[Neverenoughwatches]

11 hours ago, tIB said:

I still haven't got used to setting/winding mine - there's a certain wiggle required. Weird but apparently very good function for water resistance - you should look up the guys video on YouTube who takes it down to a thousand metres of pressure (or whatever ridiculous depth it was before the acrylic shatters.)

The wobbly crowns of the Boctok divers is to facilitate the setting of the watch while being worn, most  are autos. In the video i think the water resistance would have given in well before that, certainly at a sustained pressure. 

[tIB]

1 hour ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

The wobbly crowns of the Boctok divers is to facilitate the setting of the watch while being worn, most  are autos. In the video i think the water resistance would have given in well before that, certainly at a sustained pressure. 

You'd think movement (physical not watch!) would play a part at those depths too. 

 

I've got a Komandirskie 'diver' (it isn't really due to rating, but has the bezel) that's manual and runs for about 8 hours on full wind... bought it for the Klaus dial but should swap it into an amphibia at some point. I'm not ready to work on movements, and really a Klaus needs to be the full diver Klaus!

Edited August 26, 2024 by tIB

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, tIB said:

You'd think movement (physical not watch!) would play a part at those depths too. 

I doubt that would be any watch but who knows. As with water proof or the now water resistance just applies to the case not allowing water to enter it.