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Ulysse Nardin - Authentic?

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Hello guys. 
 

Won this watch last week on an auction. And it’s on its way. But now I’m gettin curious if it’s real or not…. It should be restored, but the movement just look funny with that writing on the wheel. 

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2 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Can you make anything out from what appears to have been ground off the case back?

Gonna see when it arrives. Hopefully this week. This is just photos from the auction. Just beginning to think, that something is off..

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It doesn't look like their pocket watch movements from early 20th century, but it also doesn't look out of place for a 70s watch riding on a high class name. They also used the Felsa 690 auto caliber in watches then, which are some of the most plain looking auto movements ever.  (Good movement though)

 

I used to do quite a bit of work for Cartier, and it was shocking to see a piece from the 60s, beautiful JLC , or Zenith caliber, and then one from 10 years later with a stock undecorated ETA 2412 or AS . It was a dark time for Swiss watchmaking.

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51 minutes ago, nickelsilver said:

It doesn't look like their pocket watch movements from early 20th century, but it also doesn't look out of place for a 70s watch riding on a high class name. They also used the Felsa 690 auto caliber in watches then, which are some of the most plain looking auto movements ever.  (Good movement though)

 

I used to do quite a bit of work for Cartier, and it was shocking to see a piece from the 60s, beautiful JLC , or Zenith caliber, and then one from 10 years later with a stock undecorated ETA 2412 or AS . It was a dark time for Swiss watchmaking.

Really don’t know what to believe.. it got me sad that I might have got something fake.. 

30 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Without looking any further the back and barrel wheel would have put me off.

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Same thing that makes me feel like it’s fake. 

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Does the auction listing still exist?

Google image search finds three cached images of that exact watch with the same strap, all from ebay - but none of the listings they came from now exist?

 

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15 minutes ago, rjenkinsgb said:

Does the auction listing still exist?

Google image search finds three cached images of that exact watch with the same strap, all from ebay - but none of the listings they came from now exist?

 

The three images you're probably finding are the 3 exact same watches the guy has sold over the past few months.

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After a but more searching for that "Ulysse Nardin" movement (without finding any exact match), I wonder if it is another variation or development of an AS1130? There are many similarities, and those were made with varying bridge designs, eg:

https://horology-student.org/movements/important-vintage-movements/as-1130/

https://ranfft.org/caliber/496-AS-1130

 

I do get the impression that Ulysse Nardin is a Pay-for-the-name brand rather than a Pay-for-the-movement quality maker?

eg. This is the movement in a Ulysse Nardin presently on ebay at ~$1600

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195061900006

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It has a re-branded Waltham 894 movement, which sells for £10 - £20 from what I can find.

https://speedtimerkollektion.com/product/90669

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I'd seen this but it's a completely different size of movement.

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This is a similar style and size watch.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387144657777?_skw=Ulysse+Nardin&itmmeta=01J7WX0BN9RBXFPPQM32VFCP2K&hash=item5a239eab71:g:Ka4AAOSw7mJmgYbP&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKkIPbQEKL8cjp4MdJGP6pgNQ2O%2B1UZcqN3n1SKccbz8QG6EKCNtWVPpRa8tsFlo9ts1A%2FlAh47sBeSLVm%2B2OCS0RR5zCVo5YHWYUGIFo26smSwxVyrj65JwaHwONLWFQibTbqF%2Bc8qEvcQfVPvnGpCuaLPMY%2B6BStjUTfs6zSsre2HQxuPEK4UcSWIJtBgxuciJcRPUcMlTawKcnAhl17PIQZQAtdmloRFfmbf2jde3EP%2BVwgt1%2Fl4R8oxepDuMvtMXLF9m%2BtK1nuXMROkLVizWuwXwgsAF6D7CWdb7OrNG1A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-S6gZ2_ZA

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