Lubrication of Strange Canon Pinion

[gpraceman]

I am working on a Hamilton caliber 64A and found a canon pinion configuration that I haven't encountered before.  I rather wasn't expecting the canon pinion to be connected to the center wheel.   Should the contact between the wheel and the canon pinon be lubricated?  If so, with some 9501 or 9504?

[Klassiker]

It's metal sliding on metal, so I'd also use a grease. I'm not familiar with many Moebius products, but the ones in the know seem to prefer 9504 to 9501. If you have it already, use that.

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, gpraceman said:

I am working on a Hamilton caliber 64A and found a canon pinion configuration that I haven't encountered before.  I rather wasn't expecting the canon pinion to be connected to the center wheel.   Should the contact between the wheel and the canon pinon be lubricated?  If so, with some 9501 or 9504?

Reminds me of something you would find in a quartz movement, accutron or a Seiko where the cp is friction fitted to the hub of the center wheel and does press out and wears out heavily if it isn't lubricated at the joint.

[gpraceman]

40 minutes ago, Klassiker said:

It's metal sliding on metal, so I'd also use a grease. I'm not familiar with many Moebius products, but the ones in the know seem to prefer 9504 to 9501. If you have it already, use that.

 

30 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Reminds me of something you would find in a quartz movement, accutron or a Seiko where the cp is friction fitted to the hub of the center wheel and does press out and wears out heavily if it isn't lubricated at the joint.

Well, I did manage to pull the canon pinon off of the wheel, before realizing that they were pressed together.  I was able to press the wheel back on with my staking set. 

I do think that a grease would be appropriate.  I have Moebius 9504.

[HectorLooi]

This kind of cannon pinions are quite common and can be a pain sometimes when it pops off when levering off the hands.

I usually put a small drop of hp1300 in the groove.

[eccentric59]

HP-1300 or D5 should do the trick. Grease is unnecessary. Remember that for the majority of the movement's life, that connection is designed NOT to slide. FWIW the cannon pinion attached to the minute wheel is found in the ubiquitous ETA 2824/SW-200 movements.