I would like to know more about this watch

[Juleswatch]

Hi everyone, I picked up this watch the other day and can’t seem to find out much about it. I have so far just taken it apart run it through a Hexane bath and got it running. It still needs to be stripped down and properly cleaned and oiled etc. I tried looking up the hall marks on the silver case and also the mark on the movement behind the dial but so far I’ve not come up with anything. I’ll post a few pictures and if anybody has any ideas it would be much appreciated. Best… Jules

[rjenkinsgb]

It's a generic late 1800s Swiss movement; there were vast quantities made by numerous makers; unless the movement itself has a makers name, they are generally unidentifiable.

I believe the cross may be just a mark showing it's swiss made?

The case may have the sellers name - cases were often interchangeable and case and movement put together by the seller (or now the ebay seller).

I can't comment on that case, I am not familiar with hallmarks etc.

 

In essence, the quality & finish of the dial are a large part of the movement value (assuming it runs OK), and type / quality / materials of the case, and how good condition it is in, make up the rest.

Unless one is fully identifiable to a maker, and rare or unusually good, they are not often particularly valuable, typically £20 - £200 depending on condition and, a if buyer seeing something that stands out to them.

Examples of similar movements:

https://www.ebay.com.my/itm/314734246508

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304489530481

 

[Juleswatch]

That’s great thanks. I never saw a silver mark like that it looks like a crab! I’ll have to try to see where that is from. Watch runs nicely so I’ll clean it up.

[RichardHarris123]

Five bar movement, made on the French/ Swiss border and as stated impossible to identify.  

[Neverenoughwatches]

1 hour ago, Juleswatch said:

That’s great thanks. I never saw a silver mark like that it looks like a crab! I’ll have to try to see where that is from. Watch runs nicely so I’ll clean it up.

English hallmarks are great for casemakers identities, material purity, year made and where they were assayed...pretty good for the last couple of hundred years at least but not necessarily related for the movement it carries. the movement may be identifiable, ive come across a few 5 bar cylinder movements that were traceable through the keyless part system.

french hallmarks generally consisted of only two, the assay stamp.... boar,s head for Paris and the crab for other assaying locations up until the early 1960s and then a maker's stamp within a lozenge shape....No dates of manufacture.

[Juleswatch]

It’ll probably remain an unknown but for ten pounds it’s running nicely and has a nice silver case nice emblem, I’ll keep it around for a bit. Thanks for all the help.

 

Heres another which I have cleaned up and running. It says Brevet which I understand is patent but it doesn’t have a patent number for me to look up the maker. Nice two faced chronograph working well now. I saw one similar on eBay but they didn’t have any more information than I do. It’s nice and chunky!