How to paint circles and text MARLIN on Timex Marlin Jet automatic as they are covered by hesalite crystal.

[JanWatchCollector]

Can i easily remove the hesalite crystal and set is back after the paint work or how would you do it? As far as know the watch https://timex.ca/products/marlin-jet-automatic-38mm-fabric-strap-watch-tw2y06400 actually comes with no black paint on circles and text covered by crystal, they are just metallic. 

[AndyGSi]

18 minutes ago, JanWatchCollector said:

Can i easily remove the hesalite crystal and set is back after the paint work or how would you do it? As far as know the watch https://timex.ca/products/marlin-jet-automatic-38mm-fabric-strap-watch-tw2y06400 actually comes with no black paint on circles and text covered by crystal, they are just metallic. 

Welcome to the forum.

Crystal can be removed and replaced but need photos of your watch to understand the rest of your post.

[JanWatchCollector]

27 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Welcome to the forum.

Crystal can be removed and replaced but need photos of your watch to understand the rest of your post.

there's an url in my post, click it and you see what is a problem looking at the pictures. This crystal is domed and covers the bezel fully and under the hesalite, there are circular stripes and text on bezel. In previous model these were painted in black, but somehow in this version these details are not painted, there is also one image with no paint on timex.ca webpage (the same i referred in my post), so colored circles and text are misleading as far as i know and i thought to repair that "design" issue or cost inefficiency, whatever you call it  

Edited November 13, 2024 by JanWatchCollector

[AndyGSi]

URL isn't working and sorry but I still can't understand what your problem is or what you're trying to achieve.

[RichardHarris123]

The link worked for me but I don't understand the question either. 

[AndyGSi]

I think I get the jist of it but text and circles appear on the UK site so not sure
if it's different on the CA site or if they're just graphics and not actual photos.

[nevenbekriev]

45 minutes ago, JanWatchCollector said:

there's an url in my post, click it and you see what is a problem looking at the pictures. This crystal is domed and covers the bezel fully and under the hesalite, there are circular stripes and text on bezel. In previous model these were painted in black, but somehow in this version these details are not painted, there is also one image with no paint on timex.ca webpage (the same i referred in my post), so colored circles and text are misleading as far as i know and i thought to repair that "design" issue or cost inefficiency, whatever you call it  

What You are going to use, text marker?

You can break the crystal and paint whatever You want to paint. Then for sure You will throw away the watch, so the broken crystal will not be a problem

[JanWatchCollector]

45 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

The link worked for me but I don't understand the question either. 

Ok  let's try from the beginning. Please look at the product pictures here on Timex Canada website: https://timex.ca/products/marlin-jet-automatic-38mm-fabric-strap-watch-tw2y06400 There are several product pictures in the webshop, in most of the product pictures the text TIMEX (on bezel not on dial) and circular stripes (on bezel) are black colored, but in one picture you can easily spot that there is no color, just simply letters pressed or engraved into metal without any color (no black color!!!) That is the actual watch you get as far as i know, some can say the Timex is cheating it's fans with this Marlin Jet. They are, and it's not funny at all. So i already ordered the watch and  i'm not going to send it back if i could fix that design flaw. I need guidance, can i and how remove that domed hesalite crystal not damaging it, paint the text and circles and set that hesalite crystal back. Are my intentions now more explicit?

[JanWatchCollector]

It is picture nr 6 on a webpage you should look at. 

[AndyGSi]

9 minutes ago, JanWatchCollector said:

Ok  let's try from the beginning. Please look at the product pictures here on Timex Canada website: https://timex.ca/products/marlin-jet-automatic-38mm-fabric-strap-watch-tw2y06400 There are several product pictures in the webshop, in most of the product pictures the text TIMEX (on bezel not on dial) and circular stripes (on bezel) are black colored, but in one picture you can easily spot that there is no color, just simply letters pressed or engraved into metal without any color (no black color!!!) That is the actual watch you get as far as i know, some can say the Timex is cheating it's fans with this Marlin Jet. They are, and it's not funny at all. So i already ordered the watch and  i'm not going to send it back if i could fix that design flaw. I need guidance, can i and how remove that domed hesalite crystal not damaging it, paint the text and circles and set that hesalite crystal back. Are my intentions now more explicit?

URL Still isn't working for me as it just wants to send me to the UK site.

If Timex & Circles are embossed into the metal then you just need to fill with
enamel paint and there's no need to do anything about removing the crystal.

I think you're jumping the gun here anyway and need to see when you get the
watch as stated above a lot of these adverts are just graphics, not actual photos.

 

[JanWatchCollector]

1 hour ago, AndyGSi said:

I think I get the jist of it but text and circles appear on the UK site so not sure
if it's different on the CA site or if they're just graphics and not actual photos.

Andy, the watch you are showing is different iteration of the Marlin Jet. This one you are displaying here is with 24h subdial, model nr TW2V72300 The one i referred is the newest iteration of the same Marlin, but with "Day" complication, model nr TW2Y06400. 

[tomh207]

@JanWatchCollector so you are asking us how to modify a watch you haven’t bought for some unknown reason of your own? Timex are not really part of the general modding scene, that is dominated by seiko mods with a whole industry built around it.

if you don’t like the watch as represented, don’t buy it.

 

Tom

[JanWatchCollector]

1 minute ago, tomh207 said:

@JanWatchCollector so you are asking us how to modify a watch you haven’t bought for some unknown reason of your own? Timex are not really part of the general modding scene, that is dominated by seiko mods with a whole industry built around it.

if you don’t like the watch as represented, don’t buy it.

 

Tom

I appreciate your answer, Tom, but you are basically ignoring my question and telling me to send it back if I do not like  the original idea of a watchmaker. But that is not my intention and a question. And that is not so much about modding the watch, as i probably have a guy who can paint it (as it was done with previous iteration), my concerns are with with special dome covering all the bezel, is it removable at all, is it easy and can i use the same hesalite if it has been removed before setting it back. And back to Timex again, why should a respectful company sell watches with wrong pictures. If you show on most pictures that it is their idea and it is colored, then why the hell they are sending it without black paint and you justify it as an original idea of a watchmaker. It's very confusing, and i tend to think that they know, that real fans swallow that cost effective design flaw represented with wrong images.  

[tomh207]

For me it is simply if I am unsure of the watch I would get then I don’t buy it. As for the crystal question it will be removable and can be replaced. As to the bezel it is likely removable and if you wish to fill any engraving there (as long as it is engraved not just laser marked) personally I would use shellac wax to fill it as that would be reasonably long lasting.

 

Tom

[JanWatchCollector]

Guys, check here: 

and also that pic

[tomh207]

From what you just posted it was stated that this is a version 2 of this watch with no black infill on the bezel. So basically you want to mod a Timex watch. If not you need to take your complaints to Timex and/or the trading standards organisation of your country. Don’t hold your breath for the outcome though.
 

Tom

[AndyGSi]

I've managed to open the link and see the with and without black paint which for me would have resulted in a question to Timex before I bought it.

As per my previous post, if you want it black then just fill it with whatever you want that's black, simples!!!

[JanWatchCollector]

4 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

URL Still isn't working for me as it just wants to send me to the UK site.

If Timex & Circles are embossed into the metal then you just need to fill with
enamel paint and there's no need to do anything about removing the crystal.

I think you're jumping the gun here anyway and need to see when you get the
watch as stated above a lot of these adverts are just graphics, not actual photos.

 

Andy, you did not even got the point about removing the bezel - how can i paint with enamel without not removing the crystal? This crystal is fully covering the metal bezel and the details  i was talkind about  That's what's so special about this watch and that´s why the original design had these details painted under the hesalite crystal. I'm not wining here. Enamel paint is exactly what i was thinking about. Thanks again, but I´m not shure right now were you talking about the same símple removal as i was thinking and asking. As you stated "If Timex & Circles are embossed into the metal then you just need to fill with enamel paint and there's no need to do anything about removing the crystal." The problem is, they are under the dome and it has to be removed. But thanks guys. Confirming enamel paint idea alone helped me a lot. Thumbs up. 

[RichardHarris123]

The crystal doesn't cover the bezel, that's impossible, so I'm still confused. 

[AndyGSi]

I was sceptical from the Timex 'Photos' that it did cover the bezel but after finding this I now see that it does and also clearly shows the unpainted bezel.

I guess this is a classic example of just buying on the internet and expecting to get one thing and actually
receiving something else, where if you'd bought from a shop you'd know exactly what you were getting.

Looks like you'll have to figure out how to remove the crystal.

[RichardHarris123]

I stand corrected.  I assume the crystal and bezel come off together but how to remove the crystal from the bezel, I don't know. 

I agree with @AndyGSi, why buy it if it's not what you want? 

[JanWatchCollector]

1 hour ago, RichardHarris123 said:

I stand corrected.  I assume the crystal and bezel come off together but how to remove the crystal from the bezel, I don't know. 

I agree with @AndyGSi, why buy it if it's not what you want? 

I'am a bit design geek and this watch would look 10 times better with details mentioned earlier being painted in black, thats it ... and of course having an appropriate watch band, not a cloth cord. The previous iteration was with black details, in almost all images on a website the watch has black details, except one image. I like the design, i feel a bit cheated by Timex, but i won't give up. It gets the finish that was planned by designer (i hope so). The product manager should be fired for the mistake  And if anyone here knows how to remove that hesalite crystal, please let me know - that´s why i game here. Thumbs up guys, let´s move on. 

[HectorLooi]

So it's not a bezel but more like a tension ring inside the crystal?

[Neverenoughwatches]

Is the advert actually misleading ? You dont get the watch that you expected to get ? Risky for any company to try to misrepresent their product if thats the case.....they will have it covered somewhere in some smallprint that youve missed.......you'll know soon enough.  As far as i know that inner bezel is loose and traps the dial into place when the crystal is clipped down. i have an 80 Timex part stripped down with something similar....its stored away for now....... could i as hell get that watch to tick with good amplitude

Installing the balance with the top plate on is a complete barsteward.

[JanWatchCollector]

5 hours ago, HectorLooi said:

So it's not a bezel but more like a tension ring inside the crystal?

In my part of a world this watch part is called bezel.