Are Seiko dials for 7009 and 7019 compatible?

[mikepilk]

I bought a cheap Seiko 7019 with damaged dial. I found a new dial on ebay for a 7009. As they are the same family, and the winders are in the same place, I assumed that it would fit. But when I fit it, the day/date window is at 4 and not at 3 as it should be. 

Anyone know why?

From Ranfft

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by mikepilk

[Nucejoe]

19 minutes ago, mikepilk said:

 when I fit it, the day/date window is at 3 and not at 4 as it should be. 

Both 7009 and 7019 have day/ date window at 3. 

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by Nucejoe
Extra is typo

[AndyGSi]

Not sure what you mean about it being at 4?

[mikepilk]

3 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

Both 7009 and 7019 have day/ date window at 3. 

I've never seen one. All the ones I checked had the crown at 4. Probably explains why he has so many NOS dials. 

4 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Not sure what you mean about it being at 4?

The crown position. I thought all were at 4 o'clock for 7009 and 7019.

[AndyGSi]

Day/Date windows are always @3 but crown can be @3 or @3.8.

Dial should still fit across movements though so still not sure what you mean.

Edited November 24, 2024 by AndyGSi

[mikepilk]

3 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Day/Date windows are always @3 but crown can be @3 or @3.8.

Dial should still fit across movements though so still not sure what you mean.

Sorry, my original post was wrong - I've corrected it.  

I thought all 7009/19 had crowns at 4. It seems not, as I bought a dial made for the crown to be at 3. Which means when I fit the dial, it's rotated so that the window is at 4.  

I haven't used my new dial feet cutter. I might give it a go 

[RichardHarris123]

Are the dial feet in different positions?

Probably a stupid question. 

[mikepilk]

Yes. Now I know what to look for.

Not one of the ads I looked at mentioned the crown position. Annoying

This is like the one I bought - for the crown at 3

And this is with the crown at 4

Edited November 24, 2024 by mikepilk

[Nucejoe]

 I have a unisex Seiko which came with crown at 3 ( just a few mm smaller diameter  than gents) some 7019 too were fitted in watch case with crown at 3 .  Guess the (  watch case depends on the collection it belongs to) , mostly in limited Editions.

Google shows images of both with crowns  at 3 and at 4.

I,d keep this one as is , kinda rare.

Rgds

 

 

6 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Are the dial feet in different positions?

Probably a stupid question. 

No, not the feet but windows.

Windows are in different positions(with respect to feet), depending on the case No, guess they r different collections.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Nucejoe
Typo

[mikepilk]

14 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

No, not the feet but windows.

Windows are in different positions, depending on the case No, guess they r different collections.

The windows are all at 3 (all the ones I've seen are). The feet are at different positions as shown in my pics above.

[Nucejoe]

6 hours ago, mikepilk said:

The windows are all at 3 (all the ones I've seen are). The feet are at different positions as shown in my pics above

Right,

Re-edited now:     added  ( with respect to the feet).

We are describing  the same thing only from different view point  .   I think.