TUDOR 9411 REAL OR FAKE

[apandersP]

Hello experts. I would really appreciate if anyone could help me solve is this is an authentic Tudor or a fake one. My suspicion is the hands looks off. They are too long. But they could have been replaced with some aftermarket ones at some point… movement looks good to me, think the dial lookin good. The inner part of the caseback is off for me, I miss the production date? Or is there not any in the Tudor’s? Movement is the 2784

 

EDIT: Can’t find a caseback photo online, there there’s a date. 

Edited November 26, 2024 by apandersP

[oldhippy]

Looking at photo 7 I would say it's a fake. I magnified the photo and the writhing is all over the place. 

[AndyGSi]

The quality doesn't quite look their and the back, crown and movement (Jewel on balance especially) look wrong.

In addition to the above from what I can see from the strap it's also wrong.

Edit

If you look at this part of the movement I'm not convinced that it is a 2784.

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by AndyGSi

[mikepilk]

19 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

If you look at this part of the movement I'm not convinced that it is a 2784

It does look like a 2784.  But the pics I've seen of Tudor 2784's have KIF balance jewels with a gold coloured chaton. It looks like it could be a standard ETA 2784 with Incabloc.

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by mikepilk

[Nucejoe]

 Will you post a tg print out of its heart beat? 

 In case you don't yet have a tg machine,  watch accuracy meter app is available online to download on your smart phone.

It,ll do till you get yourself a tg machine.

 Put your watch on the phone's mic, let the oscillator settle for couple of min and give us the print out in DU,  DD and PU positions. 

 Heart beat  print out is likely to tell us how happy does your watch run & its social standing.

Rgds 

 

 

[AndyGSi]

1 hour ago, mikepilk said:

It does look like a 2784.  But the pics I've seen of Tudor 2784's have KIF balance jewels with a gold coloured chaton. It looks like it could be a standard ETA 2784 with Incabloc.

Is the Automatic Bridge different between the Tudor & ETA 2784? 

Edit

Not sure now actually if the clip I posted with the orange background is a 2784 as listed.

Edited November 27, 2024 by AndyGSi

[mikepilk]

4 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

Is the Automatic Bridge different between the Tudor & ETA 2784? 

Edit

Not sure now actually if the clip I posted with the orange background is a 2784 as listed.

It looks the same to me. This is a 2783 I had

 

[AndyGSi]

17 minutes ago, mikepilk said:

It looks the same to me. This is a 2783 I had

 

So the 2783 has the crown wheel fixed direct while on the 2784 it's fixed through the bridge, or is this just a slight variation between bridges?.

Edit

Also found this 2784 showing where and how the movement should be marked inline with your 2783.

Compared to the OPs

Edited November 27, 2024 by AndyGSi

[Nucejoe]

Are you planning to buy this?      already have?  

Genuninity doesn't  neccessarily mean, a healthy watch or worthiness. 

Only the heart beat tells what you actually have.

Rgds

 

 

 

 

[apandersP]

On 11/29/2024 at 2:10 PM, Nucejoe said:

Are you planning to buy this?      already have?  

Genuninity doesn't  neccessarily mean, a healthy watch or worthiness. 

Only the heart beat tells what you actually have.

Rgds

 

 

 

 

I was planing to buy the watch, but I didn’t. But it got sold right after I posted this topic. I didn’t want it if it’s not real. 
 

Still trying to learn about all this small signs to spot a fake. I thought the dial looked really good 

Edited November 30, 2024 by apandersP