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On 2/20/2025 at 10:26 PM, dancad said:

finding watchmakers that can actually accept servicing this watch

No problem! Just hand it over to your Orient representative, pay for the service through your nose, and wait for at least six months ☹️ Well, I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure. Unfortunately, the same is true for many brands. The idea is to "kill" all independent repairers and steal their money.

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I am absolutely thrilled to announce that I finally fixed it !!!! Only took around 2 months and several parts ordered that either didn’t fit or had other faults, a lot of trial and error, somewhere around 150€ spent on parts. The good thing is that I have a bunch of spare parts for this watch now 😄
 

I regulated the watch with dial up and dial down for now since it’s very late, but I believe there should not be major differences in other positions. 
 

Dial down:

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Dial up:

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The aftermath 😄

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On 1/23/2025 at 1:49 PM, AndyGSi said:

Not sure where you've been looking for the mainspring?

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I was expecting you tO post your own photos but I'll have a look at the other post for the DiaFix Springs.

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Presuming you mean these springs I'd take a chance on one or both of these.

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Did anyone confirm which diafix springs fit orient?

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20 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

@dancad should be able to confirm which was the correct one.

@DaimonYes, you can take both (main spring and diafix springs) either from the same movement or a compatible movement 46943 - from this movement you can actually use many parts: main spring, balance wheel, etc. 

I would (probably) NEVER buy spare parts from CousinsUK anymore, for several reasons, but mainly the increased taxes to EU. It was also my fault that I ordered based on hope that parts will fit...and they didn't so I lost around 50euros for parts that did not fit 🙂

If I would have to go through the same troubles again, I would buy broken movements that I know they will fit and take those parts from there. Of course there is a possibility that the part you need, it's either missing (if you can't spot it from the photos) or it's broken but you can find complete movements at around 30euros on eBay.

 

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3 hours ago, dancad said:

@DaimonYes, you can take both (main spring and diafix springs) either from the same movement or a compatible movement 46943 - from this movement you can actually use many parts: main spring, balance wheel, etc. 

I would (probably) NEVER buy spare parts from CousinsUK anymore, for several reasons, but mainly the increased taxes to EU. It was also my fault that I ordered based on hope that parts will fit...and they didn't so I lost around 50euros for parts that did not fit 🙂

If I would have to go through the same troubles again, I would buy broken movements that I know they will fit and take those parts from there. Of course there is a possibility that the part you need, it's either missing (if you can't spot it from the photos) or it's broken but you can find complete movements at around 30euros on eBay.

 

Aliexpress have bridge plates for the 46943 and some of them appear to include the diafix springs, only cheap in the region of £3.50 each. Search for 46943 upper clamp plate.

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4 minutes ago, steve1811uk said:

Aliexpress have bridge plates for the 46943 and some of them appear to include the diafix springs, only cheap in the region of £3.50 each. Search for 46943 upper clamp plate.

True. The problem with Aliexpress, is shipping time from China. The bridge I ordered on 3rd of Feb. is still in transit ?! Meanwhile I fixed the watch but the part is still....somewhere on Earth.

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7 minutes ago, steve1811uk said:

Aliexpress have bridge plates for the 46943 and some of them appear to include the diafix springs, only cheap in the region of £3.50 each. Search for 46943 upper clamp plate.

They also have the Diafix prings if you look hard enough 'upper splint anti-shock spring'

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On 3/10/2025 at 10:40 AM, steve1811uk said:

They also have the Diafix prings if you look hard enough 'upper splint anti-shock spring'

I do not recommend this particular Chinese option. The spring is slightly smaller, so it won't sit properly.

The picture above exemplifies it. The lower spring is Chinese.

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