What are these tools?

[GuyMontag]

These came in an auction lot, any idea what they are?

[AndyGSi]

Hand or possibly Pinion pullers.

[GuyMontag]

Just now, AndyGSi said:

Hand or possibly Pinion pullers.

 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the one on the right. The gnurled round part rotates which moves the 'jaws' together, squeezing the handle drives the center rod down. I'm not sure how that would remove the hands or canon pinion though.

[Darthkram]

The one on the left is a hand remove although it appears to be slightly broken. The central plunger piece should be attached to the two things protruding just above each of the lever blades at the end of the arms.

To use it you actuate the plunger until the ends of the blades are parallel with the dial and a slight gap between them. You then position the canon pinion in the gap so the blades are between the dial and hands and push down on the whole tool. This forces the arms to rotate and the blade ends to tilt upwards against the hands sliding them off the movement.

They're ok to use but I almost always use standard levers over that type. Excuse the crude drawing but I'm not a great artist!

 

 

[GuyMontag]

13 minutes ago, Darthkram said:

The one on the left is a hand remove although it appears to be slightly broken. The central plunger piece should be attached to the two things protruding just above each of the lever blades at the end of the arms.

To use it you actuate the plunger until the ends of the blades are parallel with the dial and a slight gap between them. You then position the canon pinion in the gap so the blades are between the dial and hands and push down on the whole tool. This forces the arms to rotate and the blade ends to tilt upwards against the hands sliding them off the movement.

They're ok to use but I almost always use standard levers over that type. Excuse the crude drawing but I'm not a great artist!

 

 

Thanks, that makes sense.

[mbwatch]

The one on the right is a roller remover, especially if it has some extra tips stashed in the handle to sit over different sized balance pivots.

[GuyMontag]

24 minutes ago, mbwatch said:

The one on the right is a roller remover, especially if it has some extra tips stashed in the handle to sit over different sized balance pivots.

Good call, I found another one on ebay. Mine does have extra tips in the handle. I tried pulling out the existing tip but it feels like it is under some kind of spring tension. I pulled on it with a decent amount of force but it feels like I might break it if I pull harder. Do the tips come out by pulling down on them?

BTW, I didn't think to try using Google Lens first, when I just tried it identified both.

Edited January 26 by GuyMontag

[mbwatch]

22 minutes ago, GuyMontag said:

Do the tips come out by pulling down on them?

I'm not sure. I have a few of different roller removers for pocket watches but not this type.

[praezis]

25 minutes ago, GuyMontag said:

I pulled on it with a decent amount of force but it feels like I might break it if I pull harder. Do the tips come out by pulling down on them?

No, they are threaded. Use the handle to grip the tip.

Frank

[mbwatch]

I believe it is K&D #150. Maybe you can find an instruction sheet. They do tend to be floating around for K&D tools.

[GuyMontag]

31 minutes ago, praezis said:

No, they are threaded. Use the handle to grip the tip.

Frank

Perfect, thanks!