Can you recognize these?

[Ammar]

Hello everybody,

I have these two watches coming in the mail and I'm trying to find some information about them to have an idea what's going to be working on them.

The listing says they're both automatic but I doubt the first one is hand wound and the second one is quartz but I'm not sure.

The second one looks very suspicious especially with the 24 gold plated and hardness crystal written on the case back.

 

[watchweasol]

Hi Ammar,  probably better to post with the backs off when you get them , it may give members a better clue and an idea what you are up against.   Cheer

[Ammar]

6 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

Hi Ammar,  probably better to post with the backs off when you get them , it may give members a better clue and an idea what you are up against.   Cheer

Hi,

You're right, I'll do that once I get them. 

Thank you