Help Clock Identification for clueless lady

[LadyLost]

I put this on the introduction post but couldn't add pics so hoping maybe someone can advise here. Thank so much! 
Hello, I am clueless about antique (vintage?) clocks or any items to be honest. But I have two very old clocks one I think (I'm prob wrong but this is the best I could figure from my limited knowledge and not too successful research) is a Ben Harlow Wall Tavern Clock it is 77" long, 18" across, and 7" in thickness. It was my husbands great grandfathers which he bought in 1970 (we have the reciept). Unfortunately HB parents were not very stable and moved numerous times and this beautiful (mahogany maybe?) clock was not taken care of and is in very bad shape. I will attach pictures. There was also a much smaller clock that looks to be a FRIEDRICH MAUTHE, G. M. B. H., from the symbol on the face (again I do not have any clue if I am correct). This is also in very poor shape. In all honesty I would just love to get any information on these. Since we received them very broken many years ago they have just sat in our garage. We don't know what to do with them but are hoping to get any information possible about them and hopefully we can find someone who is able to fix them or ... I have found some really great information on this site and the moderator seemed so kind I thought I could maybe post and see if I might be guided in the right direction or give any info at all. Thank you so much for your time and consideration. I appreciate any help very much. Have a beautiful day! 

[transporter]

nice 19th century English longcase stiking movement, as for the maker without my Brittens at hand I cant look up that name, although that may just be the name of the shop that sold it as opposed to the actual clock maker.

Where are you located? also bear in mind that the case restoration will be a separate job to the service of the clock movement unless specified when price is given for work to be done.

[watchweasol]

A very nice old clock, suffered a bit but once restored to health , a fine specimen.

[oldhippy]

I have been replying to this for LadyLost by message. It certainly is a Tavern clock early 1800's that you can be sure of by the size of the dial. The clock tax ended in 1798, but the design carried on but the size became smaller. The very early ones had very large dials. The name on the dial is the maker. 

[spectre6000]

Doober on the side says she's in SoCal. 

Can't tell much about the movement from the photos, but the walnut case is going to need some top tier talent to get back to good condition. That appears to be a genuinely nice clock. Don't cheap out and take it to some hack, or it'll just be destroyed further. Advice about taking the case and movement to separate people is correct. Very different sets; skill, tool, TV, etc. You'll want to take it to a good clockmaker, who will remove and repair the movement. Then you'll take the case to a VERY good furniture restorer. Case will probably take more and longer than the movement. 

I have both of those skillsets (more on the woodworking side than clockmaking, to be fair), and with the figured walnut there, and I'm guessing a French polish finish (seems to have been fairly shiny, and would have been appropriate to the time and place), you don't want some hack just sanding it down and slapping on some Home Depot canned crap and gooping in wood filler. If the restorer doesn't have a glue pot (a little slow cooker looking device for keeping hide glue at the right temperature), and a huge stack of walnut lying around, it's probably the wrong restorer. Save every splinter; carefully fitting a shard is WAY easier and better looking than trying to grain match.

[LadyLost]

Thank you to everyone who has responded to my post I truly appreciate your help and guidance as I am clueless as most of you can tell. Everyone on this forum has been so kind I'm actually kind of shocked most forums are not like this. I live in Southern California if anyone knows of people that might be interested in helping me get this beautiful piece restored I would appreciate it. If not I just wanted to say thank you to everybody for your help comments and guidance hope everyone has an amazing rest of their week! 

Edited March 7 by LadyLost
I pushed post before typing lol

[watchweasol]

Hi there are organisations in America such as the AWCI and the NAWCC who like the British BHI will be able to point you in the right direction as regards finding the right people in your area who can restore your clock which will look superb once restored. If you contact either or both of these organisations I'm am sure they would be able to help.. Good luck in your endeavors and keep us posted on any progress as to how you get on. We remain interested.  Cheers

[RichardHarris123]

44 minutes ago, watchweasol said:

Good luck in your endeavors and keep us posted on any progress as to how you get on. We remain interested

I haven't commented on the clock because, I'm clueless too, but I have been following the post and will like so know what progress has been made.

[oldhippy]

Oh come on Richard chip in after all I tried to teach you have you forgotten all ready.  

[tomh207]

11 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Oh come on Richard chip in after all I tried to teach you have you forgotten all ready.  

We do appreciate your teaching OH, unfortunately we are a bit thick. How do you think we got to be moderators?

 

Tom

[oldhippy]

12 hours ago, tomh207 said:

We do appreciate your teaching OH, unfortunately we are a bit thick. How do you think we got to be moderators?

 

Tom

I'm I in your thick club as well.  Don't forget I'm a mod. 

[RichardHarris123]

14 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I'm I in your thick club as well.  Don't forget I'm a mod. 

I don't think Tom forgot.  Hehe. 

[CYCLOPS]

Hi, here is a list of NAWCC chapters in CA., I think you can pull this up on your computer, if one is to your liking I can get the email for you if you can not open them.....these are good honest folks 

 

CALIFORNIA

 

Chapter 5 - SAN FRANCISCO

President: John Koepke [Email]

Secretary: Michael Dobry [Email]

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

Chapter 52 - LOS PADRES

President: Phillip M. Keys  [Email]

Secretary: Phillip M. Keys  

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

Chapter 59 - SAN DIEGO COUNTY

President: Larry Octan [Email]

Secretary: P. Mike Dayton [Email]

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

Chapter 71 - SACRAMENTO VALLEY

President: Vince Angell 

Secretary: Chris Johnson  [Email]

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

Chapter 75 - SAN FERNANDO VALLEY

President: James Gilmore, FNAWCC* [Email]

Secretary: Chris St. Dennis [Email]

Chapter 107 - DIABLO VALLEY

President: Craig Chivatero  [Email]

Secretary: Ross W. Smith  [Email]

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

Chapter 190 - VENTURA COUNTY

President: Ron Maricich [Email]

Secretary: Mostyn Gale [Email]

VISIT CHAPTER WEBSITE

 

[Rixy]

I came across this article online. It gives a lot of background to Benjamin Harlow and the Harlow family who were originally from Derbyshire. Quite a long read but I've highlighted the section about him.

Harlow-mvts-1(1).pdf

[oldhippy]

Rixy thanks for the doc, just a small part of the Longcase clock and how they developed over time. Outside of London the styles were a long way behind. That is one of the first things I learned when I became interested in the Longcase clock, there are so many books about Longcase clocks and makers you could spend a fortune on them