Elgin 226 model 3, 18s 17j

[JorgeH]

Hello!  

New to the pocket watch repair world.

Bought an 18s 17j Elgin 226 model 3 pocket watch, non running.

Unit wants to run, but after some seconds running, it stops.

Seems someone replaced the mainspring, since it looks new and super clean, and provides power when winded.

Gear train (no pallet fork installed) runs beautifully; as soon as pallet fork is on, unit locks up and balance wheel stops going clockwise.

Pivot points look good under the loupe, and so do the jewels, but again, I am no expert.

Unit was cleaned, and slowly and carefully assembled with pics taken before disassembly for reference purposes.

Any adjustments recommended for the pallet fork?

Thanks!

Jorge

 

[nevenbekriev]

OK, the watch tried to tick before the disassembly, yes? And, now the balance doesn't turn clockwise... (only the other direction?). Are You sure the impulse jewel didn't miss the fork slot when You installed the balance? Without the balance, does the pallet fork snap to both directions as it should when moved from the banking pins?

[AndyGSi]

1 hour ago, nevenbekriev said:

Are You sure the impulse jewel didn't miss the fork slot when You installed the balance?

Where is the impulse jewel?

Edit

Thought the impulse jewel was flat and snapped off but realised now it's their.

 

Edited March 23 by AndyGSi

[Nucejoe]

Where is the guard pin? 

[AndyGSi]

25 minutes ago, Nucejoe said:

Where is the guard pin? 

Don't think these have a guard pin.

 

[Nucejoe]

2 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

Don't think these have a guard pin.

 

Ya, found a discussion on AWCCA. Apparently some American watches specially Elgin didn't have guard pin. Heres the link to the discussion.

https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/interesting-pallet-fork.165605/

Regs

[nevenbekriev]

The guard pin is right where it should be

It is perpendicular to the plain of image, so it is not seen.

Do You guess now where the guard roller is?

[JorgeH]

Hello!

Yes, the guard pin in on the Pallet fork.  Also, the impulse jewel is there as supossed to be.

Thanks!