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I would use horolene clock cleaner but be careful you most completely  cover the parts other wise it will leave a tide mark and you will never remove it, use in a well ventilated space. You need to get some steel clock pins, get a selection.  

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28 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I would use horolene clock cleaner but be careful you most completely  cover the parts other wise it will leave a tide mark and you will never remove it, use in a well ventilated space. You need to get some steel clock pins, get a selection.  

...waiting for the gasp when realising the cost of Horolene.... 🙂

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33 minutes ago, MikeEll said:
33 minutes ago, MikeEll said:

..waiting for the gasp when realising the cost of Horolene.... 🙂

Well it was going to be vodka but have you seen the price of that nowadays? 

 

 

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Nothing in Horology these days is cheap. It is very good for cleaning brass. You mention wire but I can tell you it is a steel pin, when replacing you need to bend it into an  S shape to prevent it from coming out. Another good tool to have is a pair of smooth jaw watchmakers pliers.

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Couldn't have done it without the assistance provided here.

If anyone is in Sandbach there's a clock there that I have a certain responsibility for if they'd like a look . . .

The similarities are very strong.

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5 minutes ago, wyleu said:

An 1890 Joyce Tower clock driving two faces on St Mary's Church in Sandbach.


 

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Thats pretty cool.  I've worked on a few very similar clock movements from various public buildings.  I'd quite like a look if I'm in the area

 

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How does one adjust the The balance cock?

I'm nervous about adjusting it as even with the barrel at is' lowest end I don't want the mechanism to slip if the teeth don't engage.

It seems important to get enough engagement to ensure that the pendulum receives enough of an impulse to provide a decent degree of sweep but too much and it seems to bind as the four toothed spigot is lifting the chime mechanism.

I haven't seen a write up of how this is to be adjusted, or perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places. 

The clock ran for 6 days with simply the going train, but is stalling with the chimes, strike wheels and front face mechanisms added, althou' I haven't' added the chime & strike barrels as yet. 
 

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