Rotary tool

[RichardHarris123]

3 minutes ago, AndyGSi said:

Very happy with the results after less than a minute on the wheel.

 

Which polish? 

[AndyGSi]

9 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Which polish? 

White dialux on a 2" medium felt and somewhere between 4000-5000rpm.

[Neverenoughwatches]

It's surprising how much you can improve a case's finish, with only a hand cloth polish and a small dab of autosol.  I'm always wary of highly polished cases, I get suspicious of rectified damage. it's easy to over polish and lose sharp edges. 

Edited April 8 by Neverenoughwatches

[Jon]

OK guys,

This is a bold statement, but I think you all need to throw away your Polywatch!

I've just scratched up an acrylic crystal with a blade, then gave it a good going over with 1200 grit wet and dry and finished it off with the Autosol acrylic polish by hand with a microfibre cloth.

@RichardHarris123and @Neverenoughwatcheswere spot on suggesting using this stuff. The results are damn good as you can see from the before and after photos.

 

 

 

Just in case some might think I put it on a watch cushion to make it look better

Edited April 8 by Jon

[Neverenoughwatches]

I knew of the other versions of autosol but haven't tried them, I've always had good results with the regular stuff. I start using it after 3000 wet and dry. I will have to find where it's mentioned  in a watch book. I understood that polywatch did something more,but never tried it as the autosol was cheap and worked well. 

[RichardHarris123]

8 minutes ago, Jon said:

This is a bold statement, but I think you all need to throw away your Polywatch

Use it first, it's bloody expensive!!

[Jon]

39 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Use it first, it's bloody expensive!!

Good point! 

43 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

knew of the other versions of autosol but haven't tried them, I've always had good results with the regular stuff.

So you use the regular Autosol after 3000 grit? I've tried some regular Autosol after the 1200 grit wet and dry but found it didn't work well, not like this stuff

[AndyGSi]

So this is what I use. Is this what everyone else is talking about?

[Jon]

The before and after photos I just posted were using this stuff, which is the Autosol acrylic polish

https://www.infinitywax.com/products/autosol-acrylic-polish-75ml

The regular Autosol metal polish, I find is too course

 

Edited April 8 by Jon

[RichardHarris123]

Same brand but acrylic polish.

[AndyGSi]

6 minutes ago, Jon said:

The before and after photos I just posted were using this stuff, which is the Autosol acrylic polish

https://www.infinitywax.com/products/autosol-acrylic-polish-75ml

The regular Autosol metal polish, I find is too course

 

I'll give that a go then.

[mikepilk]

1 hour ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Use it first, it's bloody expensive!!

Is it?  From Cousins Polywatch is £2.75 for a small 5ml tube, which lasts ages.

Edited April 8 by mikepilk

[RichardHarris123]

4 minutes ago, mikepilk said:

Is it?  From Cousins Polywatch is £2.75 for a small 5ml tube, which lasts ages.

Compared to autosol, yes. 

£10 at most, 15x the volume.  Polywatch would be £41.25.

[Jon]

Polywatch is £3.30 inc VAT from Cousins for 5ml excluding shipping. Autosol acrylic polish is £4.99 inc VAT excluding shipping for 75 ml.

So, 75 ml of Polywatch works out as £49.50 (10 times more expensive) Polywatch is a lot thinner than Autosol as well, so it is also stamped on to begin with.

I know Polywatch goes a long way, but the word 'shafted' springs to mind

[Neverenoughwatches]

2 hours ago, AndyGSi said:

So this is what I use. Is this what everyone else is talking about?

Yep.

3 hours ago, Jon said:

Good point! 

So you use the regular Autosol after 3000 grit? I've tried some regular Autosol after the 1200 grit wet and dry but found it didn't work well, not like this stuff

The acyclic must be a finer grade specifically for  that material Jon. Good to know it finishes better.

[mikepilk]

7 hours ago, Jon said:

Polywatch is £3.30 inc VAT from Cousins for 5ml excluding shipping. Autosol acrylic polish is £4.99 inc VAT excluding shipping for 75 ml.

So, 75 ml of Polywatch works out as £49.50 (10 times more expensive) Polywatch is a lot thinner than Autosol as well, so it is also stamped on to begin with.

I know Polywatch goes a long way, but the word 'shafted' springs to mind

Thanks, useful to know, I will buy some Autosol acrylic when my Polywatch  runs out - which may be several years.

Funny how people worry about a few £ over some polishing compound and yet are willing to pay £56 on a silicone cushion just because it says 'Bergeon' 

[mbwatch]

5 minutes ago, mikepilk said:

pay £56 on a silicone cushion

It occurrs to me that I don't think I have ever seen a casing cushion in any old-timer's vintage tool lot at auction. Every other tool imaginable, every type of movement holder, but never a cushion. Modern luxury?

[HectorLooi]

1 hour ago, mbwatch said:

It occurrs to me that I don't think I have ever seen a casing cushion in any old-timer's vintage tool lot at auction. Every other tool imaginable, every type of movement holder, but never a cushion. Modern luxury?

Yes I have. Because it says Bergeon on a few items, hence the ridiculous price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176976592409?_skw=watchmaker+tool+lot&itmmeta=01JRBX9GSBYAD7KV6SCTP9R73D&hash=item2934a07e19:g:KYcAAOSwkFRn7a6D&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1c331hc4QN0oVecY0BOs7i%2BFlHADIyC%2FsgWlL%2FfrjKaMP3YxllpUuxBl3cFqyYANNG4tP3cF6O5FQg1JQvYmTIHlVcj5%2BCCSDVE0foWVWPe1%2BukY9bC7YgnEtKcHM2HqHRyuVgQwrwxF4ElnYJ%2BA4I%2FH2%2BLz6OvvfOsM7JdiW8dE1LvTHjzCRpONG4g3QckwFy4fdMy%2BOtf6F7ieDXVwwTf9I0%2Fkr6mOkGVeUDpG4Jx1tU311qLNuS%2BeueQ%2FT04hCYvnkFBeExD9mo6FQyCGDkUs4RvHXO3xwZbx1X0caSM2A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-KMpv3CZQ

 

[LittleWatchShop]

1 hour ago, mbwatch said:

It occurrs to me that I don't think I have ever seen a casing cushion in any old-timer's vintage tool lot at auction. Every other tool imaginable, every type of movement holder, but never a cushion. Modern luxury?

My dad, a watchmaker from 1947 until 1992, never had one. I inherited everything. No case cushion.

[HectorLooi]

14 minutes ago, LittleWatchShop said:

My dad, a watchmaker from 1947 until 1992, never had one. I inherited everything. No case cushion.

I hardly use mine anymore.

[mbwatch]

2 hours ago, HectorLooi said:

Yes I have. Because it says Bergeon on a few items, hence the ridiculous price.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176976592409?_skw=watchmaker+tool+lot&itmmeta=01JRBX9GSBYAD7KV6SCTP9R73D&hash=item2934a07e19:g:KYcAAOSwkFRn7a6D&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1c331hc4QN0oVecY0BOs7i%2BFlHADIyC%2FsgWlL%2FfrjKaMP3YxllpUuxBl3cFqyYANNG4tP3cF6O5FQg1JQvYmTIHlVcj5%2BCCSDVE0foWVWPe1%2BukY9bC7YgnEtKcHM2HqHRyuVgQwrwxF4ElnYJ%2BA4I%2FH2%2BLz6OvvfOsM7JdiW8dE1LvTHjzCRpONG4g3QckwFy4fdMy%2BOtf6F7ieDXVwwTf9I0%2Fkr6mOkGVeUDpG4Jx1tU311qLNuS%2BeueQ%2FT04hCYvnkFBeExD9mo6FQyCGDkUs4RvHXO3xwZbx1X0caSM2A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-KMpv3CZQ

Ah but this listing says in the description the seller was an overeager hobbyist who watched too much YouTube and gave up after a few months. Still waiting to see one in an old pro's vintage tools lot.

[HectorLooi]

1 minute ago, mbwatch said:

Ah but this listing says in the description the seller was an overeager hobbyist who watched too much YouTube and gave up after a few months. Still waiting to see one in an old pro's vintage tools lot.

I wonder if he's someone we know on this forum. 

[mbwatch]

19 minutes ago, HectorLooi said:

I wonder if he's someone we know on this forum. 

I don't know... Diving in too fast and spending thousands of dollars on name brand Swiss tools after watching YouTube (even the Bergeon mainspring winders ) is more of a Reddit thing!

[Neverenoughwatches]

8 hours ago, mbwatch said:

It occurrs to me that I don't think I have ever seen a casing cushion in any old-timer's vintage tool lot at auction. Every other tool imaginable, every type of movement holder, but never a cushion. Modern luxury?

Me neither, I don't remember one being mentioned in the old books I have. If they were, there wasn't any emphasis placed on using one. The old timers just used movement holders or held them in their hands. 

[RichardHarris123]

Might need a whole tube of autosol!!