Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
3 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Let's hope the corrosion is external only.  The first thing I would do with the Avia, is cut off the strap and bin it.

Bit harsh there Richy old boy,  ohhh bin the strap 😄

5 minutes ago, Bearman said:

Don't worry all the straps are going complete with the DNA I got for free with them. Not quite the most disgusting watches I've received. That prize goes to the fishy smelling Accurist I got a couple of months back. 

🤢 🤮

  • Haha 2
Posted
On 9/6/2023 at 12:21 PM, Neverenoughwatches said:

Not technically in the mail but this has just arrived to me. A nice little gem i thought to continue my collection of military watches. This is a Cortebert made ATP watch, one of the forerunners of the WWW designated MOD watches. One of 17 or so brands, i think its around mid rarity of the ATPS, kicking myself a little as a few weeks ago i let a Grana slip through my hands and also another watch with the same movement as the Grana, for not a great deal more than this. This Cortebert has softened the blow, good condition in a stainless case and ticks away nicely.  

20230906_095826.jpg

20230906_095818.jpg

Today another 2 military watches arrived.  An unsigned dial  Enicar ATP and a Rotary. Collection is slowly growing. To date the Record WWW my prized precious, and ATPs Cortebert Enicar  and Rotary. Good day today, I'm broke for the month but happy 😊.  

20230914_102517.jpg

20230914_102738.jpg

  • Like 4
Posted
3 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

This 

Screenshot_20230914_103654_eBay.jpg

Screenshot_20230914_103642_eBay.jpg

I quite like the Everite watches, this has a good military look about it. Whats on the caseback Rich ?

2 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I quite like the Everite watches, this has a good military look about it. Whats on the caseback Rich ?

This is the aim 🙂

Screenshot_20230914-104433_Chrome.jpg

Posted
4 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I quite like the Everite watches, this has a good military look about it. Whats on the caseback Rich ?

This is the aim 🙂

Screenshot_20230914-104433_Chrome.jpg

Nothing interesting. £4. It's running but the minute hand sometimes stops moving. 

Screenshot_20230914_104713_eBay.jpg

Posted
4 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

Nothing interesting. £4. It's running but the minute hand sometimes stops moving. 

Screenshot_20230914_104713_eBay.jpg

I wouldn't say that Rich, a nice screwdown back, non magnetic, traditionally signed waterproof caseback, sub dial, syringe lumed hands, big boy crown, a serial number Theres a lot of military going on. Have you dated the engine ?

Posted
21 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I wouldn't say that Rich, a nice screwdown back, non magnetic, traditionally signed waterproof caseback, sub dial, syringe lumed hands, big boy crown, a serial number Theres a lot of military going on. Have you dated the engine ?

I haven't got it yet so I don't know what the movement is. 

Posted

AsPurchased1-l1600.thumb.jpg.0b485ba02530130e2dcaec3474112bf7.jpg

Another 404 club watch. Looks like maybe a paper dial, and almost certainly a low grade movement, but at 0.99p it should provide a little low cost fun. If you look closely at the second hand, it is actually snagged on the minute hand. I doubt if that is the only issue with it, but you never know. The two have been like that for a long time judging by the corrosion. I'm intrigued to know exactly what is inside it and where it was made.

 

  • Like 3
Posted (edited)
On 9/14/2023 at 5:42 AM, Neverenoughwatches said:

This is the aim 🙂

Ya know there's only twelve of the other ones 🤣...

...and of the ATP lot do you have a favourite?

Edited by rehajm
Posted
46 minutes ago, rehajm said:

Ya know there's only twelve of the other ones 🤣...

...and of the ATP lot do you have a favourite?

 

58 minutes ago, rehajm said:

Ya know there's only twelve of the other ones 🤣...

...and of the ATP lot do you have a favourite?

The Ebel has something extra about it with the Merc hour hand. Rarity is always nice  the Reconvilier, but most are quite small and i have stupidly large hands for a 5' 9" bloke the Rotary is the largest. 

  • Haha 1
Posted

image.thumb.png.43f1f7477c60906f538d6b2bb35fdd53.png

A random assortment of low cost mechanicals is on its way.

The USSR era Sekonda 19 jewel is hopefully a 2609.ha, and if so, it will probably donate its balance to a project that has been sitting waiting for a suitable donor for a while.

There is also a gents dress "Corteal", which is almost certainly another USSR era watch, with a Chaika 1601a in it. 

Also in the pile is a mystery perhaps Swiss "Dany", a couple of Rotaries, and a Grovana 17 jewel ladies, and an unknown brand ladies quartz with its back missing.

Posted
On 9/14/2023 at 10:57 AM, Neverenoughwatches said:

I wouldn't say that Rich, a nice screwdown back, non magnetic, traditionally signed waterproof caseback, sub dial, syringe lumed hands, big boy crown, a serial number Theres a lot of military going on. Have you dated the engine ?

It's an AS 984.

  • Like 1
Posted
2 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

I thought you'd done ok Rich👍. Same calibre thats in the Enicar and Rotary Trade Patterns . Well done mate good buy.

The only slight problem is it's tiny, I haven't measured it yet.  The crystal is 233 mm

Posted
4 minutes ago, RichardHarris123 said:

The only slight problem is it's tiny, I haven't measured it yet.  The crystal is 233 mm

Same as all of the trade patterns buddy. The smallest case is 30mm. But you have a movement with good history and possibly some value.

  • Like 1
Posted (edited)

AsPurchasedFront1-l1600.thumb.png.0bbe914eb3036028bba67f3902cb9da5.png

A "Craftsman", possibly in a Dennison case. I have no idea what is actually in it, but a number of similar watches online have a Cyma 990 15 jewel 3 adjustment calibre, so I may get lucky.

As to its age, anywhere from the late 1930s to the early 1950s would be my guess.

Obviously it needs a crystal and hands, but if the balance staff has survived, and if it is what I think it is, then it is 99 pence (plus postage) well spent.

AsPurchasedRear2s-l1600.thumb.jpg.d6a9838ea78a69acf8dc08757cc0cefb.jpg

AsPurchasedRear1-l1600.thumb.png.ff6f2ca010ccbdf2f8cf0740a3240911.png

 

Edited by AndyHull
  • Like 3
Posted
21 minutes ago, AndyHull said:

AsPurchasedFront1-l1600.thumb.png.0bbe914eb3036028bba67f3902cb9da5.png

A "Craftsman", possibly in a Dennison case. I have no idea what is actually in it, but a number of similar watches online have a Cyma 990 15 jewel 3 adjustment calibre, so I may get lucky.

As to its age, anywhere from the late 1930s to the early 1950s would be my guess.

Obviously it needs a crystal and hands, but if the balance staff has survived, and if it is what I think it is, then it is 99 pence (plus postage) well spent.

AsPurchasedRear2s-l1600.thumb.jpg.d6a9838ea78a69acf8dc08757cc0cefb.jpg

AsPurchasedRear1-l1600.thumb.png.ff6f2ca010ccbdf2f8cf0740a3240911.png

 

For 99p you can't go wrong.  The dial looks in great condition and the case should clean up nicely. 

  • Like 1
Posted
6 hours ago, AndyHull said:

AsPurchasedFront1-l1600.thumb.png.0bbe914eb3036028bba67f3902cb9da5.png

A "Craftsman", possibly in a Dennison case. I have no idea what is actually in it, but a number of similar watches online have a Cyma 990 15 jewel 3 adjustment calibre, so I may get lucky.

As to its age, anywhere from the late 1930s to the early 1950s would be my guess.

Obviously it needs a crystal and hands, but if the balance staff has survived, and if it is what I think it is, then it is 99 pence (plus postage) well spent.

AsPurchasedRear2s-l1600.thumb.jpg.d6a9838ea78a69acf8dc08757cc0cefb.jpg

AsPurchasedRear1-l1600.thumb.png.ff6f2ca010ccbdf2f8cf0740a3240911.png

 

Thats will be a little cracker of a pocketwatch Andy especially if its a Cyma.

  • Like 1
Posted

AsPurchasedCropped.thumb.jpg.640f26b3513c039137a8a48b3ad6bd96.jpg

Ouch!

A gold plated Rotary Quartz that seems to have been shot. Hopefully it only needs a crystal.
If so, it might give that recent Montine (which I am currently wearing) a run for its money in terms of looks. It only cost a few quid obviously.

  • Like 1
Posted
4 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Another Army pattern on its way. This time a Timor, that makes a count of four. I'm hoping the strap is an original army issue. 

Screenshot_20230924-175923_eBay.jpg

If the strap is original, what do you intend to do?  I would want to wash it to within an inch of its life. 

Posted (edited)
55 minutes ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

Another Army pattern on its way. This time a Timor, that makes a count of four. I'm hoping the strap is an original army issue. 

Screenshot_20230924-175923_eBay.jpg

Well done. You are on a roll with these. With four how many to go- sixteen? Aren't there a couple where the same maker has very unique versions where it is worth capturing both?

Edited by rehajm
Posted
12 hours ago, rehajm said:

Well done. You are on a roll with these. With four how many to go- sixteen? Aren't there a couple where the same maker has very unique versions where it is worth capturing both?

There were 17 makers, 4 of which Ebel, Lemania, Revue and Timor made 2 different versions but there are also a few black dial versions ( not Dirty Dozen ). But i would be perfectly happy with just one version of each maker 😄.  I nearly had the Revue 57 last week but someone pipped me to the post. 

13 hours ago, RichardHarris123 said:

If the strap is original, what do you intend to do?  I would want to wash it to within an inch of its life. 

Lol. Thats a tough question for me, i like things to look as pristine as possible but love originality. Sympathic restoration is so important, without that kind of care something significant can be ruined.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Neverenoughwatches said:

here were 17 makers, 4 of which Ebel, Lemania, Revue and Timor made 2 different versions but there are also a few black dial versions ( not Dirty Dozen ). But i would be perfectly happy with just one version of each maker 😄.  I nearly had the Revue 57 last week but someone pipped me to the post. 

Ah thank you. I wasn’t aware of the black versions- I believe I saw one yesterday flanked by dogs in a auction lot. The pics were poor and I wondered if they had the description wrong. 

Edited by rehajm
  • Like 1
Posted
24 minutes ago, rehajm said:

Ah thank you. I wasn’t aware of the black versions- I believe I saw one yesterday flanked by dogs in a auction lot. The pics were poor and I wondered if they had the description wrong. 

How clear was the picture of it. There are lots of black dial military type watches. Was there a view of the case back ? Which country are you in ?

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Bad news: Longines doesn't provide this service free of charge any longer. I have to ask for an extract from the archives or a certificate of authenticity, but I'm afraid it's not worth the cost for this watch. Too bad 🥴
    • Tool for removing or pressing the bezel? Most likely you have to remove the bezel (with a knife) before removing old crystal or inserting a new one. You can press the bezel with the crystal press if you have a suitable die with straight walls or otherwise a die that has enough clearance that it doesn't touch the crystal when pressing the bezel.
    • This will be my first crystal replacement, I have a press, but looking at the watch I wonder if I might need a bezel tool also. Any and all help appreciated. 
    • I'm not entirely sure you fully understand what he's doing in the video. For one thing he's giving examples of things like about 16 minutes he talks about opening up the regulator just a little bit. Opening up the regulator slows the watch down to compensate for that he moves the regulator fast and now it's keeping time again but the regulator pins are too far apart. I have an image down below on top of it shows the effect of regulator pins and amplitude. If the regulator pins are farther apart than the example down below then at a higher amplitude timekeeping will be much worse. Why the regulator pins are supposed to be adjusted as an average rule approximately twice the thickness of the mainspring itself. In other words if you look at the spacing it have one half of the hairspring thickness on either side of the hairspring itself. There is like he talks about the video a little bit of adjustment here and there. So in his example where he opened them up it will really dramatically screw up timekeeping based on amplitude. Then when you get to the 20 some minutes like you say he is adjusting the regulator pins closer together to get a more even timekeeping based on amplitude and amplitude changes are caused by going to various positions. Then and the other example of the image down below regulator pins too far apart and they hairspring is not centered and look what that does the timekeeping. So hairspring is supposed to be centered regulator pins are supposed to properly spaced. Then you get reasonably even timekeeping like it shows in the upper image. It's not like we're regulating out positional errors like poising errors because that's something entirely different.   In the part number above and in the video both of you left off details. I which version of either of your watches I will just make you's timing specifications for your watch down below may specify how you're supposed to do it other words you wind up the watch fully wound up you wait 10 to 60 minutes in the four positions it should be within 60 seconds. Yes it can be closer but you may not actually get zero.     Now let's compare with the 2892 and see where we might have a discrepancy. First off we have a problem of which one is a using did he use the chronometer grade 1 or the top grade or what?  None is basically just much tighter timing tolerances. So when he's using an example watch conceivably might be a chronometer grade watch then things are going to be much more  perfect than what you're going to see.       NH35_TG.pdf ETA 2892-A2 Manufacturing info.pdf
×
×
  • Create New...