Vintage Rotary

[anilv]

Hi guys,

Wearing an old Rotary today. This is an older watch, probably from the 40s.

The case is Gold-plated and has seen some wear. Under the "Rotary' it says 'Super sports' . Above the sub-seconds dial it says 'shock-absorber' and 'anti-magnetic'. It has fixed lugs which makes swapping strap difficult, the one it has on is meant for fixed lugs and has a sturdy fold-over (probably metal inside) which clips on the lug. It has nice simple hands which have been blued well, the center of the minute hand has been left silver given a niece contrast. The case back is a faithful rendition of the dark side of the moon.

Nice hands

The dark side of the moon... not much can be done here without spending too much money.

The inside of the dark side of the moon.. I believe the '38' means 1938? At any rate, its more than 10 years old ;so good job Meteor!

When you pop off the bac, the movement stays in the caseback. You have to use a bit of force, working around the edges, before it comes away and you are left with this.. an inner caseback. This is comes off easily.

Revealing the movement. I think it's an FHF of some sort. Note the early form of shock protection on the balance cock .. the cap jewel is retained by a spring plate and will 'give' is subjected to a hard knock. The problem with these early shock absorbers is that they were only mildly effective and that only if it hit the ground level. It had not much lateral movement built-in so if it landed edge-on the pivot would still break. Still better than no shock-absorber I suppose, If I am not mistaken Breguet pioneer this and later on it is common to find a similar system on Cyma watches. The ratchet-wheel has the normal Rotary 'Flying-wheel' which reminds me of a vintage car..Austin I think?  You can see the early type dial holding screws at 6 o'clock and slightly after 12.  The movement is marked 7/440 and just belove that there's a 'V" or maybe the 'pheon'? The watch runs well and keeps time. I haven't done anything to it but the regulator is cranked over to slow so there may be other issues, need to get some case screws too. Not so evident from the pictures is that the plates have been plated with a 'whiter' finish which looks like silver. You see similar on Movado movements. Finally in the era before center seconds, 15 jewels was as good as it got so this would have been made for the higher end of the market.

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Well its almost the weekend so have a good one!

Anilv

 

[SeikoWatch]

Very nice piece really Anilv . Congrats.. the movement has already been serviced longtime ago.. I don't know that brand because,  probably that brand has never been sold in America .

[clockboy]

Nice vintage watch that has seen some milage. Also nice that the crown knurling is not worn away as many of these well used vintages have.

[szbalogh]

This is a great piece! The shock absorber is a really unique to save the pivots and endstones. Have not seen such solution before.

Thank You for posting this!

[Geo]

I like this watch Anil, I hope you track down more history.  Although the minute and hour hand look great, I feel one or both may have been fitted somewhere down the line.  The open diamond hands look the business, but I have only seen them fitted in matching pairs.

Regarding the dark side of the moon, I was looking for a triangular prism with bands of light being emitted. 

[oldhippy]

19 minutes ago, Geo said:

I like this watch Anil, I hope you track down more history.  Although the minute and hour hand look great, I feel one or both may have been fitted somewhere down the line.  The open diamond hands look the business, but I have only seen them fitted in matching pairs.

Regarding the dark side of the moon, I was looking for a triangular prism with bands of light being emitted. 

The hands don't match.

[clockboy]

Good spot oldhippy. 

 

[vinn3]

great watch !  good show, i would like to know how to restore a case just like that.  vinn

[Geo]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

The hands don't match.

I do believe that's what I said, but not so succinctly.

[Wesley881]

Great watch!  I have a new skeleton frame pocket watch from Rotary.  I went into Marshall's to get some long johns for an upcoming Winter hike and maybe some other factory seconds/discounts when I happened upon it.  It had been marked down from "$599" to $50!  I know these stores often inflate these numbers to drive a deal, but WOW.  Anyway, it is a very nice piece and I've enjoyed carrying it from time to time...are puns OK?

[anilv]

Thanks for pointing out the hands mismatch. Can't imagine how I missed it!

Anilv

[digginstony]

Wow, a Rotary without a Chinese movement in. What a delight. If I'm looking right:- 6 bridges including the pallet fork? What a joy to work on. Absolutely love the watch even with replacement hands, though I would change them anyway as I prefer Batons.

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[StuartBaker104]

I assume the train bridge is actually one part, made to look like 3.

You're going to struggle to claim on that case wear warranty - I suspect it is slightly more than 10 years old!

[digginstony]

I assume the train bridge is actually one part, made to look like 3.
You're going to struggle to claim on that case wear warranty - I suspect it is slightly more than 10 years old!

Yep re looking at the photo the train bridge is probably all one. Though I could of swore I saw seem on the part below the "15 Jewels" could be a shadow.

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[anilv]

Re the train bridge... while it looks like 3 cocks, its probably one bridge. They did a good job disguising it, even down to having one screw for each 'bridge'.

Anilv

[berniethebolt]

MAYBE a few years late but a have just come up with a similar model i.e. 8/440 that i have had for a while and thought it is about time i did something with it so will keep you posted(if anybody is interested!)

[Nucejoe]

On 3/17/2017 at 5:55 AM, SeikoWatch said:

I don't know that brand because,  probably that brand has never been sold in America .

Longines bought Rotory  

I bought a long

[Plato]

2 hours ago, Nucejoe said:

Longines bought Rotory  

I bought a long

Rotary are well established in the UK, still going strong... I think. 

[Nucejoe]

 I got a Longines with a Rotary movement under the hood, I think its Chronograde, bought it in the USA, I think many Rotary movements were rebadged and imported in the US. Good make for sure.

Regs

[Plato]

Did Rotary make their own movements? I can imagine a Rotary with a Longines movement pre 70s.

[Nucejoe]

 I think they made in- house movements at first or when in switzerland, once head quarters were moved to London, the company  expanded fast so started sourcing movements from others manufacturers, think Longines is now in swatch group. not sure though, but its a good make, never had problem with my watch.

Regs

 

[berniethebolt]

Thanks for the interest and the comments. Look forward to stripping it down and reviving it. Fortunately the balance seems pretty good. Bye for now B. 

[Muttley]

I have a meteor from 1939 under the brand Everite which was an H Samuel brand, but the watch was rotary.