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Recently I have been restoring a Roamer watch movement which had suffered from water ingress. The centre wheel was really badly rusted and although I have a donor part I thought I would try "Horosolve Rust Remover "

Well the instructions suggest 10 mins or longer for badly effected parts. BUT I dipped it in the solution & because of family commitments I completely forgot about it for two days. ANYWAY see pics the centre part of the wheel was completely dissolved gone. I don,t know the formula/chemical in this stuff but it must be very powerful indeed.

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AFTER !!!!!!

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BEFORE (not the original,this is my donor part)

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Chemically looks similar to alloy wheel cleaner. I bet this is not cheap? If you are looking for a less aggressive solution, very cheap - Coca-Cola contains mild phosphoric acid and the fizz is a goo agitator


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The best luck I have had in removing rust is by soaking parts in black tea. It is very gentle and it works.

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For shallow rust I've used vinegar essence (12%) and a brush (rinsing in IPA) with great result. A nice side effect is that it makes brass really shiny.

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Same destructive effect, if left in vinegar for long 

 I guess I put up horosolve in same category with vinegar. 

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